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Post by sharksmith on Jul 25, 2016 13:30:16 GMT 1
The winning bidders for funding for new buses has been announced by the government today with Transdev and the West Yorkshire Combined Authority both winning funds for new buses. Alex Hornby has just announced on Twitter that this will convert the Harrogate local network to 100% electric buses. The WYCA funding is for eight hybrids but no details of the operator with Sheffield Combined Authority also successful in a bid for 44 hybrids. www.gov.uk/government/news/government-awards-30-million-funding-for-cleaner-greener-bus-journeys
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Post by A1YBG on Jul 25, 2016 20:53:43 GMT 1
Transdev Harrogate (sorry mean The Harrogate Bus Company) are to get 8 Volvos Sent from my D6603 using proboards
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 25, 2016 22:33:55 GMT 1
Presumably the 7900 all-electric, as opposed to the 7900 hybrids that Lothian and First have. Alex has tweeted they will be a new type to the UK and series production is meant to start next year.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jul 26, 2016 20:26:51 GMT 1
Presumably the 7900 all-electric, as opposed to the 7900 hybrids that Lothian and First have. Alex has tweeted they will be a new type to the UK and series production is meant to start next year. That will be interesting. I can see these going on the Main route 1.
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Post by neukit on Jul 26, 2016 20:38:38 GMT 1
Presumably the 7900 all-electric, as opposed to the 7900 hybrids that Lothian and First have. Alex has tweeted they will be a new type to the UK and series production is meant to start next year. That will be interesting. I can see these going on the Main route 1. No, they are for the Harrogate town services 2/3/6 to Bilton, Jennyfield and Pannal Ash.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jul 26, 2016 20:45:43 GMT 1
That will be interesting. I can see these going on the Main route 1. No, they are for the Harrogate town services 2/3/6 to Bilton, Jennyfield and Pannal Ash. Have seen these , I presumed they'd be the same size as the full size buses Volvo 7900s Lothian have. But the electric version looks shorter and shares a design like the Wheel Forward Streetlight and Optare Solo.
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 27, 2016 20:26:43 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 20:28:59 GMT 1
No, they are for the Harrogate town services 2/3/6 to Bilton, Jennyfield and Pannal Ash. Have seen these , I presumed they'd be the same size as the full size buses Volvo 7900s Lothian have. But the electric version looks shorter and shares a design like the Wheel Forward Streetlight and Optare Solo. I think they'll be 12m with door forward layout but from what I've seen on a few images on Google they might get charged overhead as seen in this link. They probably might look like this. electric.volvobuses.com/img/Volvo_7900_Electric_studio.jpgMichael Windle
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 27, 2016 20:37:25 GMT 1
Have seen these , I presumed they'd be the same size as the full size buses Volvo 7900s Lothian have. But the electric version looks shorter and shares a design like the Wheel Forward Streetlight and Optare Solo. I think they'll be 12m with door forward layout but from what I've seen on a few images on Google they might get charged overhead as seen in this link. They probably might look like this. electric.volvobuses.com/img/Volvo_7900_Electric_studio.jpgMichael Windle As they are for the 2/3/6 suspect they will be less than 12m due to clearance issues on suburb streets (particularly on the 2B)
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Post by SCH117X on Sept 11, 2016 21:17:31 GMT 1
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 16, 2018 11:38:21 GMT 1
Further article www.harrogatebus.co.uk/news.jsp?newsID=2251Suspect some comments were made on the journey there - a Route 1 B7RLE on a full length 70 broke down (possibly in protest at the misallocation!) at the Hospital stop on the Wetherby Road casuing a significant tale back to occur. A ex National Express President appeared in the queue of traffic presumably to act a replacement followed by a NIS 36 Gemini with passengers on and another B7RLE also NIS. I was slightly puzzled by this until I saw the article.
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Post by chas on Oct 10, 2018 18:32:25 GMT 1
Apparently the charging equipment in Harrogate bus station is still not live - according to one of the drivers. 803 was on one of the stands this morning displaying 'Not in Service'.
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Post by stevieinselby on Nov 7, 2018 21:55:38 GMT 1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-46126728"Harrogate's 'trailblazing' electric bus fleet powered by diesel generator" Oops! (And yes, I get that one generator will be more efficient than a load of diesel engined buses running around, and will not be causing as much roadside pollution, but it's still a bit of a PR blunder)
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 7, 2018 23:07:40 GMT 1
Click bait story headline? shame on the BBC
It’s just a temporary measure whilst the utility company sorts out the electricity, which is beyond Transdev’s control.
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 8, 2018 18:34:29 GMT 1
The Electrics are still being little used and are mainly recharged at Starbeck hence the fact that five Versas remain at Starbeck. The generator is needed in case of a power cut once the electrics are fully in service. Actually had a trip on one today - the driver was being instructed by another staff member at various points along the journey so their is obviously a degree of driver training still needed.
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Post by chas on Nov 9, 2018 10:17:24 GMT 1
The charging equipment in Harrogate bus station is now in use!
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 9, 2018 18:50:09 GMT 1
The charging equipment in Harrogate bus station is now in use! But are they being powered off the electric mains? The charging equipment has been in use hence all the rumpus over the use of the stand by generator.
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 9, 2018 19:52:55 GMT 1
Article in the Harrogate Advertiser www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/news/transport/harrogate-s-cutting-edge-electric-bus-fleet-powered-by-diesel-generator-1-9433065- not sure how 8 electric buses takes 10 diesel buses off the road - surprised that the generator is only a temporary measure, what is going to happen when there is a power cut - sorry, no local services. Harrogate’s “trailblazing” fleet of electric buses is currently being powered by a diesel generator as the company struggles with infrastructure issues during the rollout of the ambitious upgrade. The Harrogate Bus Company unveiled their fleet of eight electric buses in July, announcing a five year vision of making Harrogate a low emission bus town. Funding for the fleet came in the form of a £2.25 million grant from the Government’s Low Emission Bus Scheme, with the company chipping in £1.7 million itself. However, more than three months later, the fleet is being charged by a low-emission diesel generator at their Station Parade base. In a statement, general manager for The Harrogate Bus Company Keith Roebuck said the generator was a “short term interim measure” for use while the company worked through a “red-tape infrastructure issue”. Mr Roebuck conceded it was not the “ideal scenario”, but said they were working towards a permanent solution. “We were expecting to come up against challenges, as inevitably we would as trailblazers of brand new technology,” Mr Roebuck said “We’re working hard to resolve the red-tape infrastructure issue which is preventing us from using the electric chargers as we had planned. “Once we have resolved the issue, the chargers will be fuelled by a renewable energy contract ensuring that the buses are truly zero emission. “As a short term interim measure we have installed a low-emission generator to enable us to put our 100 per cent electric buses on local services, taking 10 diesel buses off the road. “It’s not the ideal scenario, but a plan B whilst we’re working hard to make plan A work. With one engine replacing ten, Harrogate is greener for it, but will be even greener once the work is completed.” A Northern Powergrid spokeswoman confirmed the power company would be able to supply the required capacity to power the fleet from the three charging masts at the bus station. “We’ve worked closely with The Harrogate Bus Company, their chosen independent connection provider and independent distribution network operator to make available a connection and the required capacity to help transform Harrogate into Britain’s first low emission bus town,” the spokeswoman said.
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 17, 2018 12:29:50 GMT 1
Article in the Harrogate Advertiser “As a short term interim measure we have installed a low-emission generator to enable us to put our 100 per cent electric buses on local services, taking 10 diesel buses off the road. Yet to see that happen - there is always a Versa, B7RLE or B10BLE on at least one of the electric duties - this morning Solo 90 was on a 2B so at least one of the 24 duties cannot be electric worked and a Versa was on a 3.
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 24, 2018 17:55:31 GMT 1
806 broken down at the traffic light immediately before the bus station this afternoon, not completely out of juice as the hazard lights were working.
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 28, 2018 19:09:06 GMT 1
The Volvos are being named it seems after local primary schools with the first two so named 801 - Bilton Grange, 802 - St Josephs.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Mar 30, 2019 19:02:28 GMT 1
Although the electric buses are an excellent idea, I didn't like the Volvo 7900E as much as BYD-E200-MMCs I've been on elsewhere. The seat on top of the wheel is harder than the others in the bus. I couldn't even see the fleet number when I was at Harrogate bus station, but I did note the reg, which was BV18XZA. It was on route 2a.
I narrowly missed one on route 3. What was naughty was that as it reversed out of the bus station, the display on the front of the bus changed from Bus departing in 15 seconds to Bus departing in 10 seconds. Such displays, although on the face of it a good initiative, are meaningless if the bus leaves early.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 30, 2019 21:35:30 GMT 1
The fleet numbers are only on the rear above the window. All are now named with the names above the door and drivers window.
801 BV18XZA Bilton Grange 802 BV18XZB St Josephs 803 BV18XZC Richard Taylor 804 BV18XZD Saltergate 805 BN68XSA Woodfield 806 BV68XSB Rossett Acre 807 BN68XSC New Park 808 BN68WSD Western
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Mar 31, 2019 11:53:56 GMT 1
Although the electric buses are an excellent idea, I didn't like the Volvo 7900E as much as BYD-E200-MMCs I've been on elsewhere. The seat on top of the wheel is harder than the others in the bus. I couldn't even see the fleet number when I was at Harrogate bus station, but I did note the reg, which was BV18XZA. It was on route 2a. I narrowly missed one on route 3. What was naughty was that as it reversed out of the bus station, the display on the front of the bus changed from Bus departing in 15 seconds to Bus departing in 10 seconds. Such displays, although on the face of it a good initiative, are meaningless if the bus leaves early. The displays are set by the drivers, but can only be set by minutes, so drivers need to use a bit of sense, and if they have 6m 45 before leaving, set it as 6 rather than 7 minutes.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 31, 2019 12:43:30 GMT 1
Obviously needs some cab indicator of the count down even if just a red light.
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