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Post by gooderson1 on Aug 28, 2019 14:44:51 GMT 1
Anyone confirm that "Oldham" depot and operations has been removed from "for sale".
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Post by michael1971 on Aug 28, 2019 18:35:13 GMT 1
Anyone confirm that "Oldham" depot and operations has been removed from "for sale". i think so for now but having said that i saw a Go North west trainer heading up to Mossley from Ashton and this is the way the 350 goes
i think it will get sold in the end
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Aug 29, 2019 8:24:08 GMT 1
Anyone confirm that "Oldham" depot and operations has been removed from "for sale". I'm not sure any part of First is currently "for sale", if by that you mean actively being marketed for disposal, however I suspect that the current First group management are open to reasonable offers for any part of their business (though more open in some parts that others, I suspect they would be fairly reluctant to sell Bristol, West Yorkshire & Glasgow for instance as they are growing and investing in those areas quite heavily). Oldham is reasonably well positioned geographically for them to retain as it adjoins the neighbouring West Yorkshire business which can cost-effectively provide management support if required so would allow Oldham to be retained easier than the other two Manchester depots, and with the issues around disposing of the Vantage Busway contractually First may decide that retaining a larger presence in Manchester is prudent at this time.
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Post by jus363 on Sept 8, 2019 18:02:41 GMT 1
Does anybody know if first bus staff passes are valid on Diamond and Go north west buses since the takeovers ?
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Post by SF07 on Oct 9, 2019 20:23:54 GMT 1
The GMCA committee meeting giving details of the proposed changes by First to services in Oldham area from 27 October: - 80/81A: Service 81A is withdrawn and replaced between Oldham and Holts Estate via Greenacres and Lees by service 80. Service continues to run every 30 minutes.
- 81: Frequency between Oldham and Manchester reduced to half-hourly. Oldham-Derker section withdrawn. TfGM looking at replacement services for Oldham-Derker.
- 82/83: Changes to Monday-Saturday daytime journeys on service 83, with service continuing to run every 10 minutes between Manchester and Oldham Mumps, while the Oldham-Sholver section will be replaced by service 82, running every 15 minutes. Evening and Sunday journeys remain as full Sholver-Manchester route, as service 83.
- 84: New service 84 introduced, partly replacing services 180/184. Service runs every 10 minutes between Manchester and Grotton, continuing to Uppermill 3 times per hour (possibly every 20 minutes). Sunday journeys run every 15 minutes between Manchester and Grotton, continutes to Uppermill 3 times per hour (as existing 184 Sunday service). Monday-Saturday evening journeys run half-hourly between Manchester and Uppermill, while Sunday evening journeys run every 30 minutes between Manchester and Grotton, continuing to Uppermill every hour.
- 180: Service curtailed to run between Greenfield and Oldham with frequency reduced to hourly. Evening/Sunday journeys withdrawn with Greenfield-Oldham link provided by service 350, with connections at Uppermill for service 84 to Grotton and Lees.
- 184: Service curtailed to run between Huddersfield and Oldham only with journeys between Uppermill, Oldham and Manchester replaced by service 84. Sunday journeys to/from Huddersfield provided by service 84.
- 425: Route curtailed to run between Oldham and Holts Estate via Glodwick, with Monday-Saturday daytime frequency increased to every 10 minutes.
- 426: New service introduced, replacing service 425 between Oldham and Fitton Hill. Monday-Saturday daytime frequency reduced to every 20 minutes compared to existing 425 service.
democracy.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/documents/s2485/08%20GMTC%2020191011%20Forthcoming%20Changes%20to%20the%20Bus%20Network%20-%20Part%20A.pdfEDIT: Changes listed on the First website: www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/planned-changes/october-service-changes
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Post by michael1971 on Nov 13, 2019 15:45:04 GMT 1
33755 has gone to First South Yorkshire buses returned to Oldham from Diamond been 33714, 33729, 33739, 69143 and 69224
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Post by michael1971 on Jan 30, 2020 21:55:02 GMT 1
First bus Oldham have removed themselfs from the uk bus checker app all it shows now is the timetable times
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Post by SF07 on Feb 2, 2020 22:18:04 GMT 1
Same seems to apply to Citymapper app as well (First Bus were the only company to show live times on there). First Bus app now appears to be the only place to find their live times.
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Post by michael1971 on Feb 5, 2020 16:26:14 GMT 1
Same seems to apply to Citymapper app as well (First Bus were the only company to show live times on there). First Bus app now appears to be the only place to find their live times. one Oldham bus 69529 was showing live on uk bus checker yestaday but just now use it for Go North West who seem to be the only firm trackering all buses
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Post by SF07 on Jan 7, 2022 18:19:54 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on Jan 19, 2022 18:47:24 GMT 1
Unite the Union have announced a further 11 days of strike action at First Manchester's Oldham depot in addition to the three remaining planned dates in January (20th, 24th, 26th January) and the one yesterday (18th January). The "major sticking point" is First not wanting to backdate the increased wage package back to August 2021. The new planned dates are: - 31st January, 1st and 4th February (Monday, Tuesday and Friday)
- 7th-9th February (Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday)
- 15th, 17th and 18th February (Tuesday, Thursday, Friday)
- 21st, 23rd and 25h February (Monday, Wednesday, Friday)
www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2022/january/first-manchester-bus-drivers-announce-fresh-strikes-in-pay-dispute/
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Post by driver6540 on Jan 19, 2022 23:48:56 GMT 1
I'm not a bus driver, so i feel compelled to ask the bus drivers or PCV insiders on this forum, Is £12.40 P/H a reasonable rate for the job?. I cant and wont make any comment regarding this strike as i don't know the details. But i was just wondering if West Yorkshire based drivers (irrespective of what company you drive for) would expect to receive this amount P/H?
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Post by SF07 on Jan 21, 2022 17:50:23 GMT 1
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Post by Dom on Jan 24, 2022 23:54:09 GMT 1
I'm not a bus driver, so i feel compelled to ask the bus drivers or PCV insiders on this forum, Is £12.40 P/H a reasonable rate for the job?. I cant and wont make any comment regarding this strike as i don't know the details. But i was just wondering if West Yorkshire based drivers (irrespective of what company you drive for) would expect to receive this amount P/H? I’m on more than that at my employer. Also, undergoing wage negotiations.
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Post by driver6540 on Jan 26, 2022 0:21:23 GMT 1
I'm not a bus driver, so i feel compelled to ask the bus drivers or PCV insiders on this forum, Is £12.40 P/H a reasonable rate for the job?. I cant and wont make any comment regarding this strike as i don't know the details. But i was just wondering if West Yorkshire based drivers (irrespective of what company you drive for) would expect to receive this amount P/H? I’m on more than that at my employer. Also, undergoing wage negotiations. Thanks for your response, Do hope you get more brass following negotiations
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Post by SF07 on Jan 26, 2022 20:05:55 GMT 1
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Post by joseph on Jan 26, 2022 20:56:17 GMT 1
This is brilliant lol, can just imagine Angela shouting out 'Give em a pay rise yer scum b******s!'
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Post by SF07 on Feb 3, 2022 18:43:36 GMT 1
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Feb 3, 2022 21:00:16 GMT 1
We are pleased to advise customers that the industrial action planned for tomorrow (4th), Monday 7th, Tuesday 8th and Wednesday 9th February has been called off as drivers consider a revised pay offer.
All services including school routes will operate as normal.
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Post by deerfold on Feb 10, 2022 15:38:35 GMT 1
We are pleased to advise customers that the industrial action planned for tomorrow (4th), Monday 7th, Tuesday 8th and Wednesday 9th February has been called off as drivers consider a revised pay offer. All services including school routes will operate as normal. Looks like the idea has been accepted. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-60330034
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Post by SF07 on Feb 10, 2022 21:21:48 GMT 1
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Post by WYBS on Feb 10, 2022 21:56:00 GMT 1
Where's this money coming from? Increased fares in the near future?
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Post by kendall17 on Feb 11, 2022 0:04:18 GMT 1
Less £s in dividends.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Feb 11, 2022 8:24:34 GMT 1
Where's this money coming from? Increased fares in the near future? It will be a combination of things. A fares increase, a push for extra funding from local authorities, a reduction in the profit (but how much there actually is in First once the one off income from the US sales last year is a question, First Bus UK wasn't exactly the most profitable business before COVID), service cuts (this cost increase could turn routes that were safe to marginal quite easily) & hopefully some commercial & marketing effort to attract passengers back & new passengers into the business (though operators are struggling so much many have neither the time or resources to devote to such activities that don't come with a direct fast payback right now - though you would hope a large company like First isn't in that position). As an industry we should be paying our drivers more, this is a skilled & important job, but unlike haulage companies giving lorry drivers massive pay rises we can't just put up our prices to cover the extra cost (councils don't have a lot of spare cash, neither do many of our passengers & even a small fare increase produces a massive adverse public reactionso the amount of increase needed to get wages up to where they need to be is simply out of the question) and since wages is the largest single cost to bus companies so giving these increases to deal with driver unrest and recruitment of new staff to deal with significant staff shortages risks undermining the viability of networks unless something changes (this doesn't need to be increased subsidy but it will come as a political or financial cost to politicians - reducing tax on fuel used by bus operators or measures to promote bus usage over the car could help). There is a lot of uncertainty at the moment as the current COVID funding is ending before passenger numbers have remotely recovered (both direct funding & the requirement to maintain concessionary funding at pre-COVID levels rather than paying per passenger as normal) and whilst there has been some rumours of an additional round of Recovery Grant after 1st April there is still no confirmation from government of whether this is true or what form it will take.
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Post by michael1971 on Feb 11, 2022 11:37:50 GMT 1
single deckers 66880 and 69224 have been withdrawn and sold 66892 has been VOR since December leaving just 69171 of B7s left in service of 06 regs
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