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Post by eby543 on Aug 17, 2010 21:53:47 GMT 1
passed the back of arriva wakefield garage on the train tonight ,
theres a x arriva london citaro artic in the yard at the side of the river , not able to get the number.
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Post by olympian on Aug 17, 2010 22:22:09 GMT 1
Might be stored there as they are some for sale at Arriva bus and coach www.arrivabusandcoach.co.uk/details.asp?ProductID=192 But 5 years ago they were talking about having a semi fast between Dewsbury and Wakefiled along the 278, 253/4 route, stopping these routes at Dewsbury. The plan was to use ex London bendi Citaros and a demo did go to bell isle about 5 years ago in white but never used with a normal Citaro but it was uesd and it came back again for more trials. I dont think this will ever happen but it was a brian storn to be like the FTR, so I was told from a good souce. |
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Post by Matty on Aug 17, 2010 22:25:44 GMT 1
I heard that all the London artics were on their way to other regions in the UK soon, so could this be the start of things to come???
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Post by Jamie on Aug 17, 2010 23:04:07 GMT 1
I heard that all the London artics were on their way to other regions in the UK soon, so could this be the start of things to come??? I think it suspect it would only be in store be going to Cleckheaton for refurbishment then for re-sale as only certain area's are being set for the Bendi's unless they are going to possibly trail it? |
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 18, 2010 8:03:53 GMT 1
With the exception of most of the Selby Services and the odd West Yorkshire route ie 163/6 all the other Arriva Yorkshire services have to reverse.
All the Wakefield Services use Wakefield Bus Station, same for Dewsbury and Heckmondwike also use Leeds, Bradford, Dewsbury Huddersfield and Wakefield Bus Stations.
Castleford: a lot of the Services use Wakefield and are seriously inter-worked. The 163/6 and the 156/9 Ferry Fryston don't reverse. Others use Pontefract and while they don't reverse there I'm not sure an artic would be welcome in there.
That leaves Selby, Selby to York could be made to work so too could Selby to Goole, artics in Goole there's a thought.
Before anyone gets too excited I doubt the current Selby depot could accommodate the artics.
Open to any other possibilities.
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Post by siy2009 on Aug 18, 2010 10:52:54 GMT 1
If the 110 avoided the bus station in Wakefield could that be a contender for a trial of a bendi vehicle.
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 18, 2010 12:22:10 GMT 1
If the 110 avoided the bus station in Wakefield could that be a contender for a trial of a bendi vehicle. But the 110 also goes into Leeds Bus Station, plus it could be interesting in the Asda car Park and at the Hall Green Turning Circle |
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 18, 2010 12:41:07 GMT 1
If the 110 avoided the bus station in Wakefield could that be a contender for a trial of a bendi vehicle. But the 110 also goes into Leeds Bus Station, plus it could be interesting in the Asda car Park and at the Hall Green Turning Circle Plust it will have better buses on it now than it would have with the Citaros. |
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Post by nickfoster on Aug 18, 2010 13:24:01 GMT 1
This might be a dumb question but can the Citaros not reverse
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 18, 2010 13:26:57 GMT 1
Also add that most Arriva services have an 'around the houses' element where the route diverts off the main road to serve a housing estate or village which wouldn't be suitable to artics.
I don't know what was agreed between the bus companies and TFL when the axe was announced, but I doubt they are going to flood the country with all of London's artics, there are 100s of them.
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 18, 2010 13:49:04 GMT 1
This might be a dumb question but can the Citaros not reverse Of course they can. Ever tried to reverse something thats articulated? |
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 18, 2010 14:11:33 GMT 1
I'll throw another one in now.
I think that there are only the pits at Dewsbury which would be long enough to accommodate them.
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Post by Jack on Aug 18, 2010 16:59:12 GMT 1
Only a handful of services around the country have had trials with the Citaros as far as I'm aware. In Liverpool the 26/27 Sheil Road Circulars which are one of the few routes that don't serve Queen's Square Bus Station where the stands are too short to accommodate them and the 501 South Parkway to JLA.
Didn't one go on trial in Leicester on services that serve the University and Wigston areas?
Also, don't forget Arriva are the preferred bidders for operating the Malta bus network which I understand is a candidate for artic disposals!
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Post by Penfold on Aug 18, 2010 17:13:36 GMT 1
The bus in question is MA36 BX04 NDY. It was parked over the engine wash this morning.
Penfold
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Post by Matty on Aug 18, 2010 19:17:20 GMT 1
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 18, 2010 20:28:10 GMT 1
Looks like one of the the more cared for members of the Artic club, not! |
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Post by Penfold on Aug 18, 2010 22:07:24 GMT 1
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Post by danielnew on Aug 25, 2010 0:44:38 GMT 1
Bendi's would be good on the 163/166 purely because the Tempos aren't big enough, increasing the frequency just leads to greater bunching and the deckers are too big capacity wise. However the speed bumps are a problem! I will say though the Merc Citaros even semi-knackered are much better than the rubbish First Leeds had!
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 25, 2010 6:55:45 GMT 1
Bendi's would be good on the 163/166 purely because the Tempos aren't big enough, increasing the frequency just leads to greater bunching and the deckers are too big capacity wise. However the speed bumps are a problem! I will say though the Merc Citaros even semi-knackered are much better than the rubbish First Leeds had! I don't understand; a Tempo with a total capacity of 71 passengers (43 seated + 28 standing) is not big enough but an ALX400 seating 75 is too big! |
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 25, 2010 9:02:40 GMT 1
You're right, the Tempos aren't big enough. Thats why they put ALX400s/Spectras on there during the peak.
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 25, 2010 14:14:35 GMT 1
You're right, the Tempos aren't big enough. Thats why they put ALX400s/Spectras on there during the peak. The Tempos would be big enough if it was practical for 28 souls to be prepared to stand |
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 25, 2010 14:18:29 GMT 1
You're right, the Tempos aren't big enough. Thats why they put ALX400s/Spectras on there during the peak. The Tempos would be big enough if it was practical for 28 souls to be prepared to stand Sorry, should've ended that bit with a wink. Bit of sarcasm was in my post. |
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Post by Jack on Aug 25, 2010 18:45:54 GMT 1
Bendi's would be good on the 163/166 purely because the Tempos aren't big enough, increasing the frequency just leads to greater bunching and the deckers are too big capacity wise. However the speed bumps are a problem! I will say though the Merc Citaros even semi-knackered are much better than the rubbish First Leeds had! Would some of the smaller roads in some of the housing estates in Garforth and Kippax be able to accommodate the artics anyway. Don't forget that the planned Castleford bus station is drive in reverse out layout so another no no! |
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Post by timelesstable on Aug 25, 2010 19:06:39 GMT 1
Bendi's would be good on the 163/166 purely because the Tempos aren't big enough, increasing the frequency just leads to greater bunching and the deckers are too big capacity wise. However the speed bumps are a problem! I will say though the Merc Citaros even semi-knackered are much better than the rubbish First Leeds had! Would some of the smaller roads in some of the housing estates in Garforth and Kippax be able to accommodate the artics anyway. Don't forget that the planned Castleford bus station is drive in reverse out layout so another no no! You can add the depot to the list of no no's, parking could be an issue and the pits at Castleford would not be long enough to accommodate them either. |
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Post by danielnew on Aug 31, 2010 0:31:02 GMT 1
I was merely joking about the suggestion of putting them on the 163/166 obviously it is impractical!
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