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Post by timelesstable on Mar 7, 2010 17:12:44 GMT 1
The latest Arriva news includes an article on the recent investment in modern buses and the current position on low floor easy access ones. www.arrivabus.co.uk/content.aspx?id=9165To get to the 93% low floor, I make it that 621-3 the last of the Olympians have to be excluded. Anyone know the status of those 3? The article also clarifies the position on when low floor will be required. 2015 for single deck vehicles and 2017 for double decks.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 7, 2010 17:28:23 GMT 1
My calculations have 336 buses in the fleet at the moment, 27 being step entrance which equals 92% low floor. They are probably excluding pool buses?
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 7, 2010 18:07:34 GMT 1
My calculations have 336 buses in the fleet at the moment, 27 being step entrance which equals 92% low floor. They are probably excluding pool buses? I agree with your 27 non-low floor and 336 in total which is 92% as you rightly say. Exclude 621-3 and the total drops to 333 of which 24 are not low floor i.e. the 93% quoted in the Article. I'll see if I can find out what the status is on those three
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Post by Penfold on Mar 7, 2010 18:27:00 GMT 1
To get to the 93% low floor, I make it that 621-3 the last of the Olympians have to be excluded. Anyone know the status of those 3? Now you mention it, the one that was at the back of Belle Isle (621 ?) seems to have disappeared and I havent seen any of the others out on the road recently. Penfold
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 7, 2010 18:38:47 GMT 1
To get to the 93% low floor, I make it that 621-3 the last of the Olympians have to be excluded. Anyone know the status of those 3? Now you mention it, the one that was at the back of Belle Isle (621 ?) seems to have disappeared and I havent seen any of the others out on the road recently. Penfold I did see both 622 & 623 in service last month but I haven't seen 621 in service since last year
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Post by guyarab on Mar 7, 2010 22:57:05 GMT 1
So we have 93% of buses in the fleet with low floors - to conform to the Disabilities Discrimination Act, but only the Volvo/Wrightbus have the offside emergency door ahead of the rear axle. Now I thought all new buses had to have this feature, so I wonder why such as the Enviro200/400s don't offer this?
Arriva congratulate themselves on their new buses and interior cleanliness and regular washing, but I thought new ticket machines were to have been in use from 2009. These would bring a near full modernising of the fleet, but am I wrong about them?
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Post by Penfold on Mar 7, 2010 23:13:54 GMT 1
So we have 93% of buses in the fleet with low floors - to conform to the Disabilities Discrimination Act, but only the Volvo/Wrightbus have the offside emergency door ahead of the rear axle. Now I thought all new buses had to have this feature, so I wonder why such as the Enviro200/400s don't offer this? Arriva congratulate themselves on their new buses and interior cleanliness and regular washing, but I thought new ticket machines were to have been in use from 2009. These would bring a near full modernising of the fleet, but am I wrong about them? New ticket machines are scheduled for later this year/early next, mind saying that I've been hearing that for the last 5 years or more ! Penfold
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 8, 2010 8:14:15 GMT 1
So we have 93% of buses in the fleet with low floors - to conform to the Disabilities Discrimination Act, but only the Volvo/Wrightbus have the offside emergency door ahead of the rear axle. Now I thought all new buses had to have this feature, so I wonder why such as the Enviro200/400s don't offer this? Neither do the Tempos
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Post by kendall17 on Mar 8, 2010 9:24:39 GMT 1
Fair play to Arriva for this bus investment in Yorks. But i feel they had to do so, to keep up with First and their huge investment in the area.
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 8, 2010 19:26:45 GMT 1
Fair play to Arriva for this bus investment in Yorks. But i feel they had to do so, to keep up with First and their huge investment in the area. It will be interesting to see what appears in the next couple of years. Or should I have said should be more interesting to see what is withdrawn/scrapped/transfered out
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Post by kendall17 on Mar 8, 2010 20:56:49 GMT 1
Definately. Theres nothing planned for Leeds though apart from the hybrids for the 1. Which should displace the remaining Olympians so can see some of them getting scrapped/transferred elsewhere.
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Post by olympian on Mar 8, 2010 22:53:16 GMT 1
Fair play to Arriva for this bus investment in Yorks. But i feel they had to do so, to keep up with First and their huge investment in the area. yes they did have to get new buses as alot of the buses were dieing or broken down and I got a text of one of 3 ikarus bus that have gone from Dewsbury to Liverpool, dont know who owns them but M814 RCP didnt make it as it burt out in Runcorn, from the pic I have the back end looks bad but the inside is only smoke damage but looks like it is going to get scrapped anyway. Looking at the photo the bus could be working for Arriva still as it dosent have the red strip around it but am getting more photos soon, I will have a go at putting them on here.
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Post by Penfold on Mar 9, 2010 1:25:49 GMT 1
Fair play to Arriva for this bus investment in Yorks. But i feel they had to do so, to keep up with First and their huge investment in the area. yes they did have to get new buses as alot of the buses were dieing or broken down and I got a text of one of 3 ikarus bus that have gone from Dewsbury to Liverpool, dont know who owns them but M814 RCP didnt make it as it burt out in Runcorn, from the pic I have the back end looks bad but the inside is only smoke damage but looks like it is going to get scrapped anyway. Looking at the photo the bus could be working for Arriva still as it dosent have the red strip around it but am getting more photos soon, I will have a go at putting them on here. I'm sure that it was also AY24 (M814RCP) that suffered an engine fire a few years back. I have a picture somewhere of one that was a bit toasted around the rear. Will have to have a look at what I have stored !. Penfold
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 9, 2010 7:48:53 GMT 1
It was 24 I remember seeing it being towed down Dewsbury Rd towards Wakefield early one Saturday Morning. I can't remember when but if it helps I'm sure when it returned to service it was the only one of the batch to re-apper with a LED Destination Screen.
For the record 29 only received it's led after the others had been withdrawn
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Post by steve on Mar 9, 2010 14:08:50 GMT 1
Sorry to jump onto my soap box but.... I find all this publicity about interior cleanliness on Arriva all a bit pathetic really. They market it as if it's some added bonus we're getting, and a great achievement, when in reality a clean bus interior is something to be taken for granted. And I think we'd all rather have a bus that was on time than one that was late but sporting a set of chrome wheel trims - not that this EVER happens on my local 202/3....!
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 9, 2010 16:34:36 GMT 1
So we have 93% of buses in the fleet with low floors - to conform to the Disabilities Discrimination Act, but only the Volvo/Wrightbus have the offside emergency door ahead of the rear axle. The last VDL Pulsars 1450-3 also have the offside emergency door from the lower floor level as well
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Post by olympian on Mar 9, 2010 22:14:10 GMT 1
It was 24 I remember seeing it being towed down Dewsbury Rd towards Wakefield early one Saturday Morning. I can't remember when but if it helps I'm sure when it returned to service it was the only one of the batch to re-apper with a LED Destination Screen. For the record 29 only received it's led after the others had been withdrawn Yes that right
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Post by guyarab on Mar 11, 2010 22:46:28 GMT 1
So we have 93% of buses in the fleet with low floors - to conform to the Disabilities Discrimination Act, but only the Volvo/Wrightbus have the offside emergency door ahead of the rear axle. The last VDL Pulsars 1450-3 also have the offside emergency door from the lower floor level as well Duly noted, but my question is really about whether ALL new buses should have the offside emergency door ahead of the rear axle. An exception seems to be that when a bus has a centre exit it needs NO offside emergency exit at all.
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 12, 2010 9:26:13 GMT 1
Duly noted, but my question is really about whether ALL new buses should have the offside emergency door ahead of the rear axle. An exception seems to be that when a bus has a centre exit it needs NO offside emergency exit at all. Appreciate it is not what you were initially asking but are you sure about the centre exit ones I thought that the lower saloon emergency doors/exits had to be on opposite or adjacent sides. Therefore should the bus roll onto it's nearside then there is a readily available alternative route out of the bus
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 12, 2010 18:06:37 GMT 1
To get to the 93% low floor, I make it that 621-3 the last of the Olympians have to be excluded. Anyone know the status of those 3? Now you mention it, the one that was at the back of Belle Isle (621 ?) seems to have disappeared and I havent seen any of the others out on the road recently. Penfold I saw 622 coming into Wakefield this afternoon, looked like it was working on the 150 Wakefield-Selby
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 19, 2010 21:01:58 GMT 1
Olympian 623 was working 150 this afternoon so it looks very much like 622 & 623 are still working out of Selby Depot
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Post by guyarab on Mar 20, 2010 21:23:59 GMT 1
Duly noted, but my question is really about whether ALL new buses should have the offside emergency door ahead of the rear axle. An exception seems to be that when a bus has a centre exit it needs NO offside emergency exit at all. Appreciate it is not what you were initially asking but are you sure about the centre exit ones I thought that the lower saloon emergency doors/exits had to be on opposite or adjacent sides. Therefore should the bus roll onto it's nearside then there is a readily available alternative route out of the bus I am not sure it all about it, but I recall seeing an illustration with caption of a London 'decker's offside without emergency door and the statement to explain it. Even then I had wondered what means of escape there would be if it rolled onto its nearside. Still beggars an answer as to whether the offside emergency exit has to be forward of the rear axle.
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 21, 2010 11:25:50 GMT 1
Appreciate it is not what you were initially asking but are you sure about the centre exit ones I thought that the lower saloon emergency doors/exits had to be on opposite or adjacent sides. Therefore should the bus roll onto it's nearside then there is a readily available alternative route out of the bus I am not sure it all about it, but I recall seeing an illustration with caption of a London 'decker's offside without emergency door and the statement to explain it. Even then I had wondered what means of escape there would be if it rolled onto its nearside. Still beggars an answer as to whether the offside emergency exit has to be forward of the rear axle. Might have something to do with the disabled means of escape if the bus is still upright and the nearside is exit blocked/broken
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Post by guyarab on Nov 21, 2011 22:28:49 GMT 1
They have arrived! The new Arriva ticket machines I mean. Kept that quiet haven't they - or have I missed something?
Do not know the make, I couldn't make it out. The machine seems to be black and has a bluish lighting.
I was on 175 tonight and the machine shows thus:
Driver no. Bus no. Route Jny (journey) Ticket type Validity Fare Stage (place named) Date Time Conditions Arriva contact details
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Post by Matty on Nov 21, 2011 22:45:25 GMT 1
You have missed something They went out yesterday.
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