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Post by WYBS on Apr 22, 2024 20:41:56 GMT 1
Keighley 2794 broken down at Kirkstall Halfords. Then on the back of wrecker on Kirstall Road heading towards Leeds. Strange way to go back to Keighley! With the roads it would have travelled on through Kirkstall and Rodley it'd have been far easier via the A647/Ring Road to Rodley or even the M621/M606/A650 to Keighley I thought it would have gone on the A65 to Horsforth then down the ring road like you say, but it was being towed towards town near the Dulux Decorating Centre.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 22, 2024 18:59:14 GMT 1
Keighley 2794 broken down at Kirkstall Halfords. Then on the back of wrecker on Kirstall Road heading towards Leeds. Strange way to go back to Keighley!
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Post by WYBS on Apr 22, 2024 18:41:55 GMT 1
I'm not convinced that I agree. West Yorkshire has more realtime-fitted bus stops than almost anywhere else I can think of in the country. The bus shelters in my area all have bus maps for the local services, and a full timetable. The bus stops without a shelter have either a realtime flag, or a printed timetable. The Travel South Yorkshire website looks like it's straight out of the 90s. It has a colour scheme that matches my idea of Sheffield: very bland. I can only access PDF timetables, when I'd rather just view a live webpage. On the final link you posted, it doesn't state which day of the week that timetable is for. While some bus stops in West Yorks are missing timetables, (this is not a new thing), I think this may be a result of energy and budget being focused on funding services, also connected with people being more likely to view timetables online now. I remember seeing a bus stop on Burnley Road near Todmorden in about 2017 that had a timetable from 2012 on it, so there have always been minor issues. I've found Metro to be very easy to contact as a bus user, and I try to report any errors or issues I see to them. They have replied to, and rectified every single one within a couple of weeks. Are you in Leeds? There seems to be quite a difference between Leeds and the other areas. For the services running past my house, they all have RealTime information at Keighley bus station and the stop after; the 903 and M4 also have it at Airedale Hospital. The 66 doesn't have any others, the 62 has it at Ilkley bus station and the second stop on the route. There's no maps at shelters. Many flags list destinations not served from that stop. None of our stops have realtime information on the flag. I am admittedly in Leeds, so lucky I guess, but even still on my travels to places like Hebden Bridge, Haworth, Holmfirth, even Oldfield I have had no issue finding printed timetables.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 22, 2024 18:39:17 GMT 1
That's historical though, not inclusive of the current time. The title is 'historic/ current'.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 22, 2024 11:21:03 GMT 1
The timetables on stops have got much worse since they automated their production where a route isn't straightforward. On my local timetables they say about Airedale Hospital "All services call" - however, all trips on the 66, 903 and M4 serve it, but only 1 trip a day in the evening (and 3 on Sundays) on the 62 (a half hourly service) do. At Airedale Hospital the 903 has a list of times. All trips take the same route to Steeton, then 10 of them turn left to Silsden, 4 of them continue straight on to Keighley. You can't tell from the stop timetable which service does which. Between Silsden and Steeton all buses take the same route to Steeton, then 8 trips turn right to Airedale Hospital, 2 turn left to Keighley. Again, you can't tell from the stop timetable which service does which. They've also stopped giving any indication of how long a journey will take. If you're travelling from Ripponden to Halifax a journey could take 28 minutes or it could take 61 minutes, depending which bus you take, but there's no indication which trips go on longer routes - for the longest it's almost always worth waiting for a quicker one. I've told Metro about this, but it doesn't seem to help. The destination guide has always been a bid dodgy, to be fair. The timetable at Rodley Harrisons Corner (my local stop), used to state that the 760 went to Kirkstall, but the 670 didn't, however it did go to Kirkstall fire station. I remember one batch of timetables, probably circa 2018 had route timings for each individual route, which I thought was brilliant, but it was dropped a few months later.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 22, 2024 11:11:17 GMT 1
I'm not convinced that I agree. West Yorkshire has more realtime-fitted bus stops than almost anywhere else I can think of in the country. The bus shelters in my area all have bus maps for the local services, and a full timetable. The bus stops without a shelter have either a realtime flag, or a printed timetable.
The Travel South Yorkshire website looks like it's straight out of the 90s. It has a colour scheme that matches my idea of Sheffield: very bland. I can only access PDF timetables, when I'd rather just view a live webpage. On the final link you posted, it doesn't state which day of the week that timetable is for.
While some bus stops in West Yorks are missing timetables, (this is not a new thing), I think this may be a result of energy and budget being focused on funding services, also connected with people being more likely to view timetables online now.
I remember seeing a bus stop on Burnley Road near Todmorden in about 2017 that had a timetable from 2012 on it, so there have always been minor issues.
I've found Metro to be very easy to contact as a bus user, and I try to report any errors or issues I see to them. They have replied to, and rectified every single one within a couple of weeks.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 19, 2024 12:58:12 GMT 1
Yutong 68808 is currently out on the 6/8 circuit.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 17, 2024 23:17:34 GMT 1
New operator 'Northstar' is a one man operation as far as I'm aware. The one man being Dan Graham who used to work for Go North East.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 16, 2024 17:06:46 GMT 1
Connexions Scania 7396 LJ (I think) on Kirkstall Road with some filming taking place inside this afternoon.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 15, 2024 21:15:10 GMT 1
I've just seen (21:10) Sprinter RX24 THZ at the top of Horsforth Town Street.
I wonder what on earth it is doing up here at this time of day, or at all for that matter!
Have they won the 30 tender perhaps and are doing some nighttime route learning?
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Post by WYBS on Apr 13, 2024 19:11:17 GMT 1
This is a quite useful collection of all the new routes but it seems to suggest buses to/from Westgate will run via the tiny, narrow Sackville Street in both directions, which is obviously wrong. wymetro.com/media/4gmpnumg/br9f97-1.pdfLooks like they gave the work experience kid a crayon to draw the new routes. Very amateur.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 13, 2024 15:05:17 GMT 1
Rather exciting news posted by Paul Turner on the Transdev Enthusiasts Facebook group today:
All the 16x '36' B5TLs will move onto Airleine and Dalesway once the E400EVs have entered service this summer.
Some will be in Aireline colours, some in Dalesway, and some in standard Keighley livery.
The full post reads:
A weekend fleet update: Following the service changes at York 207 208 209 213 214 and 216 are being withdrawn at the end of their lease. Two may see use this month for the Harrogate flower show.
When the new Enviro 400EVs enter service at Harrogate in the summer all 16 B5s will move to Keighley for Aireline and Dalesway. 2402/3, 2756-9 and 2791-6 will replace B7s in the school fleet while 2776 to 2778 will move to either Blackburn or Burnley to replace B7s there. At the same time 2017 will go for repaint for Burnley.
We are expecting a demo E400EV next week which will see use on the 36.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 12, 2024 9:34:07 GMT 1
I've not seen any plans to link the Interchange and Forster Square. This would be a project costing hundreds of millions of pounds (at least), and would be major news.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 11, 2024 17:28:34 GMT 1
37710 changed over this morning due to the cab seat not going back far enough, replaced with 37130 advertising the 'Elland Lines' in Rochdale & Burnley today. Should get rebranded to become "far from Elland" There was one in Leeds yesterday. Great advertising! I'm sure the Elland Lines will be the talk of everyone going up Armley Road. Same as the 'advertising' of the PR1 that I saw yesterday up at Headingley. Why yes, people in North Leeds are going to use a P&R site south of the city centre. The mind boggles.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 10, 2024 22:48:08 GMT 1
No wonder Flexibus could barely run. Hopefully Brabin is voted out in May's elections As, I've mentioned before on here, I'm not sure how you can blame her for contracts signed before she took office. How dare you come around here with your facts and logic Mr Deerfold!
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Post by WYBS on Apr 9, 2024 23:21:41 GMT 1
Yeah, all running time in all the wrong places. From what once was a super reliable service has now been decimated. Nobody has a good thing to say it is an abomination of what it once was. Don't understand how they thought they could run an every 20 minute service between Halifax and Tod but still have a half hourly service to Burnley and Rochdale, without the 589. I liked the simple days where it were 1 Burnley and Rochdale an hour from Halifax, 4 buses per hour between Calder Valley and Halifax and a full 589. Because it's First. Don't read too much into it. Inept management who are more concerned about a computer system than actual people using their services! I've heard ASDA are only going to stock apples on Tuesdays and Saturdays, because the computer data tells management that those are the days that they sell the most, despite customers wanting to buy them everyday and staff getting sick of telling customers that they don't stock them everyday... Also, the quantity put out in the store is going to vary by the minute based on AI information. Now, unfortunately for the customers, the nearest alternative shop is 18 miles away, so tough, they'll just have to deal with it or grow their own! Sounds pretty crazy, right?
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Post by WYBS on Apr 8, 2024 18:18:22 GMT 1
What I can't understand about the Elland Road routing is that it isn't exactly a very busy corridor. Outside of the Park and Ride site, people visiting the LUFC shop, and people at the White Rose Centre: who exactly is using it?
If trams were routed down Dewsbury Road to the White Rose Centre, then continued into the middle of Morley for example, it would make sense. A very densely populated corridor with a large out-of-town shopping complex at the bottom of it, and a reasonably large town: Morley.
Even then though, what would it be achieving that buses don't already achieve? Faster journey times? Create an express route: Leeds - Dewsbury Road - White Rose Centre - Morley.
I really am all for a mass transit scheme in West Yorkshire, but the more I analyse it, the more I'm struggling to imagine where trams would work. The only place I could if think would be Leeds - Airport, but I can't work out the routing of it. Running it along the A65 would be great, but when you get to the bottleneck at Kirsktall and then Horsforth Roundabout: where do the trams go?
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Post by WYBS on Apr 8, 2024 16:45:01 GMT 1
The new 4 at Harrogate despite running from Stand 1 is being worked by the Volvo Electrics. Going by bustimes scheduling the first and last three workings are the same vehicle which the rest of the day time is working every other one interworking with the 6. Any observations for 21 Transport? Ex-Diamond Bus Mellor Strata LS68 FOV working the No.8.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 7, 2024 12:02:21 GMT 1
Keighley 2756 broken down this evening at Rock Lane, Bramley. Rain pouring down. Quite a few rail passengers on board I would imagine, given the current Northern strike action. Not exactly a great look for the bus industry, having to put 19 year old buses onto a service you know is going to be busier than usual, with an hour wait for the next one if somethings breaks down. All buses break down at times, even brand new ones. Most passengers won't have cared or even noticed it's age, plus those upstairs would have had extremely comfy coach seats. Whilst I do agree that they are comfy upstairs, I think it's still pretty obvious to the general public how old they are. Presumably from how loud the B7s are. I know people who know nothing about buses and moan about how old some buses are. Over the past 6 months or so, I've seen plenty of B7TLs and B9TLs broken down on the 60/A. More than I've seen on any other route I've lived on (well, with a kosher operator anyway).
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Post by WYBS on Apr 6, 2024 22:03:34 GMT 1
Keighley 2756 broken down this evening at Rock Lane, Bramley. Rain pouring down. Quite a few rail passengers on board I would imagine, given the current Northern strike action. Not exactly a great look for the bus industry, having to put 19 year old buses onto a service you know is going to be busier than usual, with an hour wait for the next one if somethings breaks down.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 1, 2024 9:41:58 GMT 1
Keighley B9 2791 is currently on the K14.
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Post by WYBS on Mar 31, 2024 22:18:22 GMT 1
Yes, that means for discussion about franchising before it actually happens, as this thread appears to have been specifically created in response to the Bee Network one getting off topic. Already existing BSIP schemes have nothing to do with franchising speculation and discussion. Well there isn't much to discuss apart from companies won't be bothered to do anything at all till franchising starts because why do anything if you're not going to win the franchise? All companies have to do now is the bare minimum? Why put any work in now, when some other company will reap their work. If there's not much to discuss then the thread will be a quiet one for now. So be it. travelwestyorks.proboards.com/thread/6554/wakefield-bus-service-improvementsOr travelwestyorks.proboards.com/thread/6503/proposed-enhanced-services-bsip
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Post by WYBS on Mar 31, 2024 18:01:10 GMT 1
Maybe slightly reroute the 10, to save having to tender? Only thing is, it's impossible to slightly reroute the 10. It already covers the Railway Station and Horsforth Vale, but there would be no way for it cover Calverley and Woodhall Road without a long double run up from Rodley roundabout, which would add about 10 or 15 minutes to each journey.
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