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Post by mark51953 on Apr 17, 2024 8:34:44 GMT 1
The first day off Castleford and Selby swaps Selby to Castleford 1500,1502,1503 Castleford to Selby 1963,1967,1968 More to come tonight as 15--s and 19--s swap over this week
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Post by stephen01 on Apr 17, 2024 9:20:07 GMT 1
there'd still be enough deckers as it's not all the e400MMCs at Cas going to selby. Plus there's still 1884-1893 too. The tempos are currently mainly doing 148/149 of late or occasionally 195/196/496. It's very rare a tempo goes on 118 and i dont think they've ever done 444/446 as they are too big and likey to ground on the housing estate in Rothwell the 444 loops round let alone going through Stanley. I've seen tempos on 444/446 before, a tempo also did the 22 the other week. 1884 has been withdrawn since the accident a few months back and 1888 is a selby allocated bus. 1888 went to Selby to cover for 1884. That tempo was when it was at Cas helping out.
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 17, 2024 9:25:04 GMT 1
I've seen tempos on 444/446 before, a tempo also did the 22 the other week. 1884 has been withdrawn since the accident a few months back and 1888 is a selby allocated bus. 1888 went to Selby to cover for 1884. That tempo was when it was at Cas helping out. 1888 was already at Selby, both came from Dewsbury to Selby
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Post by Penfold on Apr 17, 2024 9:41:33 GMT 1
Tempos are not allowed on 444/6 due their lack of turning lock specifically at Carlton (444) and Butcher Lane Rothwell (446 return to Wakefield). Added to that they are not E6 vehicles neither
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Post by mark51953 on Apr 17, 2024 14:07:25 GMT 1
Tonight's swap if 1505 to Castleford and 1953 to Selby if goes ahead
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 17, 2024 16:58:11 GMT 1
Tempos are not allowed on 444/6 due their lack of turning lock specifically at Carlton (444) and Butcher Lane Rothwell (446 return to Wakefield). Added to that they are not E6 vehicles neither Penfold Due to the policy on Hunslet Road? Castleford must be in trouble an awful lot with Metro then, as commanders are used daily on the 140/141 and in case of 1403 today, the 168
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Post by jst on Apr 17, 2024 19:10:06 GMT 1
Madness that Castleford losing more newer buses for old with the E400MMC moves following the switchover of Pulsars. The Castleford 'Premier route' the 163, looks to probably now be operated by a mix match of 14-15 year old deckers instead of its batch of dedicated, branded 6 year old buses!
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 17, 2024 19:14:39 GMT 1
Madness that Castleford losing more newer buses for old with the E400MMC moves following the switchover of Pulsars. The Castleford 'Premier route' the 163, looks to probably now be operated by a mix match of 14-15 year old deckers instead of its batch of dedicated, branded 6 year old buses! Think Castleford has the oldest fleet now out all of the depots! 163 tends to be booked be ran with e200s in an evening as well, madness.
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Post by jst on Apr 17, 2024 20:41:29 GMT 1
Anything goes on the 163 on an evening now, halved the frequency and halved the size of the buses too. Sundays nearly as bad.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 20, 2024 9:02:18 GMT 1
I wonder whether there is a trend towards older buses in Castleford and other West Yorkshire depots. Arriva at best face uncertainty as to their operation not being lost to other operators through franchising, or at worst are considering not even bidding, like at Wythenshawe in Manchester.
Admittedly the difference in West Yorkshire is that they have several depots, not just the one (or two prior to dumping their Bolton operation).
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Post by stantheman on Apr 22, 2024 23:13:46 GMT 1
I wonder whether there is a trend towards older buses in Castleford and other West Yorkshire depots. Arriva at best face uncertainty as to their operation not being lost to other operators through franchising, or at worst are considering not even bidding, like at Wythenshawe in Manchester. Admittedly the difference in West Yorkshire is that they have several depots, not just the one (or two prior to dumping their Bolton operation). I was in Leicester recently and it is awash with 72 and 73 reg Arriva vehicles all looking the absolute business. Meanwhile we are left with an ageing fleet and getting 58 reg single deckers from Liverpool.
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 23, 2024 7:40:56 GMT 1
I'd say there are worst fleets within Arriva, Southern Counties is probably the worst in terms of buses.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Apr 23, 2024 8:32:05 GMT 1
I wonder whether there is a trend towards older buses in Castleford and other West Yorkshire depots. Arriva at best face uncertainty as to their operation not being lost to other operators through franchising, or at worst are considering not even bidding, like at Wythenshawe in Manchester. Admittedly the difference in West Yorkshire is that they have several depots, not just the one (or two prior to dumping their Bolton operation). I was in Leicester recently and it is awash with 72 and 73 reg Arriva vehicles all looking the absolute business. Meanwhile we are left with an ageing fleet and getting 58 reg single deckers from Liverpool. The benefits of a positive Enhanced Partnership with a co-operative Local Authority and a relatively secure short-term future, though to provide balance Leicester had to swap nice 64-plate E400s with slightly ropey 09 plate E400s from Liverpool for the same reason Yorkshire got those single deckers so it isn't all rosey & those 73-plate deckers replaced identical 16-plate deckers that were sent elsewhere rather than replacing the oldest 2006 vehicles in the fleet. There are also still a few 2006 DAF deckers running around hanging on until Arriva to finally sort out their electric buses (reportedly the issue being getting agreement between landlord & power company to upgrade the power connection - if it is like ours the power company require a 5 square metre area of land for their transformer with a 99 year lease (I think it was that long, certainly multi decade) which landlords don't want in the middle of their sites as it will limit future development and the Arriva Leicester depot is at the back of the estate next to a river so the best place for the landlord is the worst place for the power company & vice versa so agreement is reportedly proving difficult (our electric buses were delayed by about 6 months due to difficulties agreeing such a location). Arriva's investment has lagged due to the long drawn out sale so they are carrying out a bit of moving deckchairs without actually addressing the issue of replacing vehicles but hopefully now it looks like the sale is sorted they will start addressing things though with franchising looming in WY it is unlikely Arriva Yorkshire will see anything until clarity is achieved.
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Post by Penfold on Apr 23, 2024 8:45:59 GMT 1
I wonder whether there is a trend towards older buses in Castleford and other West Yorkshire depots. Arriva at best face uncertainty as to their operation not being lost to other operators through franchising, or at worst are considering not even bidding, like at Wythenshawe in Manchester. Admittedly the difference in West Yorkshire is that they have several depots, not just the one (or two prior to dumping their Bolton operation). I was in Leicester recently and it is awash with 72 and 73 reg Arriva vehicles all looking the absolute business. Meanwhile we are left with an ageing fleet and getting 58 reg single deckers from Liverpool. ....and whilst AY is putting 58 plate Pulsars into front line service, ANW are converting some of theirs to DTU's ! Penfold
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 23, 2024 8:53:29 GMT 1
Theres still one depot down south that have 04 plate ALX400s and only recently got rid of their last remaining W Reg ALX400!
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 24, 2024 7:54:21 GMT 1
I dont think the geminis swap with e400mmcs has anything to do with York CAZ, they are already euro 6 as they was allocated funding for it and given the geminis had already visited York quite a lot in each day, they would have to been compliant since 2022, if they wasn't compliant, they would have been transferred in 2022. Its more like Geminis are showing their age, and 415 is Selby's flagship route, so the MMCs got sent across to York.
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Post by joshben on Apr 24, 2024 20:02:02 GMT 1
I dont think the geminis swap with e400mmcs has anything to do with York CAZ, they are already euro 6 as they was allocated funding for it and given the geminis had already visited York quite a lot in each day, they would have to been compliant since 2022, if they wasn't compliant, they would have been transferred in 2022. Its more like Geminis are showing their age, and 415 is Selby's flagship route, so the MMCs got sent across to York. Selby's DB300s currently spending more time off the road than on it and often travelling to Cas to get fixed, I think the idea is to transfer more reliable buses (E400MMCs) away to Selby and keep the DB300s at Cas to get rid of the cost associated with towing or driving buses from Selby to Cas a few times a week.
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Post by mattb7tl on Apr 24, 2024 20:33:37 GMT 1
The DB300s on that route are absolute heaps. It doesn't suprise me they want to get rid. I guess another factor could also be franchising since the depot it runs from is outside of our region.
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Post by miniray on Apr 24, 2024 20:38:21 GMT 1
The Cas - Selby swap has other reasons, other than age of buses. But due to operational issues at engineering/management level drivers are unable to comment.
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Post by burtonsa02 on Apr 25, 2024 22:14:59 GMT 1
1403 has been withdrawn. This was one of the last Frequenta buses that Wakefield owned for the 148/149 before it transfered to Castleford since December 2022. 1409, 1414 and 2578 remains.
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 25, 2024 22:25:39 GMT 1
1403 has been withdrawn. This was one of the last Frequenta buses that Wakefield owned for the 148/149 before it transfered to Castleford since December 2022. 1409, 1414 and 2578 remains. Just seen it, the last of 56 plates to go! Good bus that one, wonder if anything will replace it, as Cas are missing quite a few pulsars atm too
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Post by joshben on Apr 26, 2024 8:58:25 GMT 1
1403 has been withdrawn. This was one of the last Frequenta buses that Wakefield owned for the 148/149 before it transfered to Castleford since December 2022. 1409, 1414 and 2578 remains. 1403s machine tracking on 163 this morning
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 26, 2024 9:14:04 GMT 1
1403 has been withdrawn. This was one of the last Frequenta buses that Wakefield owned for the 148/149 before it transfered to Castleford since December 2022. 1409, 1414 and 2578 remains. 1403s machine tracking on 163 this morning Apparently its a gemini tracking on 1403s machine, as it was tracking on 163 yesterday as well.
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Post by mark51953 on Apr 26, 2024 13:39:39 GMT 1
All the Geminis and Castleford are to return to Selby over the weekend and Mmc's back to Castleford
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 26, 2024 13:42:36 GMT 1
All the Geminis and Castleford are to return to Selby over the weekend and Mmc's back to Castleford How come? If you don't mind me asking please, That wasn't long. Reminds me of the time where the spectras got sent to Selby, but caused issues and got sent back to Wakefield in exchange for some Olympuses lol.
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