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Post by WYBS on Mar 23, 2024 1:06:42 GMT 1
Yutong Demo UU11 DDD is currently out on the no.6 in 'arragut. It flipped from the 1 early afternoon and has been on all the Harrogate Electric routes; a shortage of the Volvo Electrics again with only five in service and a B7RLE having to fill in until the Yutong took over, until it was retired after 6pm and a B7RLE returned. Puzzled why it has not been used on the 36; could there bne a range issue with demonstrator. I'm a tad confused as to why it is being demo'ed in Harrogate at all, as the electrics for the 36 and 1s have already been ordered.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 23, 2024 11:01:27 GMT 1
Could simply be its available at the moment. There has been a vehicle shortage at Starbeck with jouneys having to be cancelled following a vehicle becoming unserviceable and no spare available to replace it. Alternatively maybe they are thinking the 1 needs larger vehicles and some of the Merc single deckers they have ordered might go elsewhere.
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Post by leedsbusman on Mar 23, 2024 11:17:03 GMT 1
It flipped from the 1 early afternoon and has been on all the Harrogate Electric routes; a shortage of the Volvo Electrics again with only five in service and a B7RLE having to fill in until the Yutong took over, until it was retired after 6pm and a B7RLE returned. Puzzled why it has not been used on the 36; could there bne a range issue with demonstrator. I'm a tad confused as to why it is being demo'ed in Harrogate at all, as the electrics for the 36 and 1s have already been ordered. It’s an evaluation of a new model - most others have been tested at Harrogate so it will give a meaningful comparison and that is where the infrastructure is to charge it without relying on a temporary charger.
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Post by rs on Mar 24, 2024 12:36:48 GMT 1
Could simply be its available at the moment. There has been a vehicle shortage at Starbeck with jouneys having to be cancelled following a vehicle becoming unserviceable and no spare available to replace it. Alternatively maybe they are thinking the 1 needs larger vehicles and some of the Merc single deckers they have ordered might go elsewhere. Very certain the Mercs won't be going elsewhere, there's no other depot that has the infrastructure for them. You're probably spot on with your first suggestion though.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 27, 2024 21:09:04 GMT 1
Is it known what capacity the ordered Mercs have ? The demonstrator is a 39 seater and, having turned up at Harrogate today admid chaos on Route 1 due to it being Knaresborough market day amiss school holidays and road works resulting in a 40 minute gap in the service with buses almost trapped in Knaresbough, many were not happy to see it due to the "lack of seats" - the B7RLEs have 44. In an attempt to regain the timetable it went out as a short to Starbeck packed full and amazing how many who attempted to board did not understand it was not going to Knaresborough.
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Post by pricel on Mar 27, 2024 21:17:01 GMT 1
Is it known what capacity the ordered Mercs have ? The demonstrator is a 39 seater and, having turned up at Harrogate today admid chaos on Route 1 due to it being Knaresborough market day amiss school holidays and road works resulting in a 40 minute gap in the service with buses almost trapped in Knaresbough, many were not happy to see it due to the "lack of seats" - the B7RLEs have 44. In an attempt to regain the timetable it went out as a short to Starbeck packed full and amazing how many who attempted to board did not understand it was not going to Knaresborough. Beneath me how single deckers were chosen on the 1 and Shuttle, with them both being busy services that only show signs of growth, after people making the switch from train services to buses due to constant industrial action. I can see them pulling an Aireline and Dalesway in the future with them needing to replace brand new electric buses with old age crap that can't even stay on the road for more than 5 hours to update the capacity. (mainly talking about how the Aireline buses are always off road)
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Post by northerner on Mar 27, 2024 22:12:04 GMT 1
Is it known what capacity the ordered Mercs have ? The demonstrator is a 39 seater and, having turned up at Harrogate today admid chaos on Route 1 due to it being Knaresborough market day amiss school holidays and road works resulting in a 40 minute gap in the service with buses almost trapped in Knaresbough, many were not happy to see it due to the "lack of seats" - the B7RLEs have 44. In an attempt to regain the timetable it went out as a short to Starbeck packed full and amazing how many who attempted to board did not understand it was not going to Knaresborough. Beneath me how single deckers were chosen on the 1 and Shuttle, with them both being busy services that only show signs of growth, after people making the switch from train services to buses due to constant industrial action. I can see them pulling an Aireline and Dalesway in the future with them needing to replace brand new electric buses with old age crap that can't even stay on the road for more than 5 hours to update the capacity. (mainly talking about how the Aireline buses are always off road) Indeed, the Aireline branded B9s are very unreliable, it's rare all 6 are in service at once. Hopefully they will be moved on once the electrics arrive
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 27, 2024 23:15:29 GMT 1
Is it known what capacity the ordered Mercs have ? The demonstrator is a 39 seater and, having turned up at Harrogate today admid chaos on Route 1 due to it being Knaresborough market day amiss school holidays and road works resulting in a 40 minute gap in the service with buses almost trapped in Knaresbough, many were not happy to see it due to the "lack of seats" - the B7RLEs have 44. In an attempt to regain the timetable it went out as a short to Starbeck packed full and amazing how many who attempted to board did not understand it was not going to Knaresborough. Beneath me how single deckers were chosen on the 1 and Shuttle, with them both being busy services that only show signs of growth, after people making the switch from train services to buses due to constant industrial action. I can see them pulling an Aireline and Dalesway in the future with them needing to replace brand new electric buses with old age crap that can't even stay on the road for more than 5 hours to update the capacity. (mainly talking about how the Aireline buses are always off road) How many more routes are you going to claim are busy all the time and need deckers. Seems to be every route you’ve ever been on. Just be honest, you are just an enthusiast who likes sitting upstairs
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Post by pricel on Mar 28, 2024 0:00:39 GMT 1
Beneath me how single deckers were chosen on the 1 and Shuttle, with them both being busy services that only show signs of growth, after people making the switch from train services to buses due to constant industrial action. I can see them pulling an Aireline and Dalesway in the future with them needing to replace brand new electric buses with old age crap that can't even stay on the road for more than 5 hours to update the capacity. (mainly talking about how the Aireline buses are always off road) How many more routes are you going to claim are busy all the time and need deckers. Seems to be every route you’ve ever been on. Just be honest, you are just an enthusiast who likes sitting upstairs No, I say it on reasonable routes. Don't see me saying 933 needs a double decker do you. Seems like that's more a targeted comment than anything!
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Post by stephen01 on Mar 28, 2024 1:14:30 GMT 1
Beneath me how single deckers were chosen on the 1 and Shuttle, with them both being busy services that only show signs of growth, after people making the switch from train services to buses due to constant industrial action. I can see them pulling an Aireline and Dalesway in the future with them needing to replace brand new electric buses with old age crap that can't even stay on the road for more than 5 hours to update the capacity. (mainly talking about how the Aireline buses are always off road) Indeed, the Aireline branded B9s are very unreliable, it's rare all 6 are in service at once. Hopefully they will be moved on once the electrics arrive the arrival of the electric buses wont affect the deckers on Aireline & Dalesway as the eclipses currently on shuttle will likely join the school fleet replacing the last of the BMCs & Wright Renowns. Don't forget the deckers currently on Aireline spent majority of their lives on Coastliner before Rosso bought them prior to the Transdev takeover.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 28, 2024 9:26:07 GMT 1
Beneath me how single deckers were chosen on the 1 In comparison the B7RLE I got on the return Route 1 yesterday afternoon had five passengers on it.
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Post by pricel on Mar 28, 2024 10:27:32 GMT 1
Beneath me how single deckers were chosen on the 1 In comparison the B7RLE I got on the return Route 1 yesterday afternoon had five passengers on it. The route wouldn't be every 7 minutes if passenger levels were that low each trip though?
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 28, 2024 13:43:31 GMT 1
In comparison the B7RLE I got on the return Route 1 yesterday afternoon had five passengers on it. The route wouldn't be every 7 minutes if passenger levels were that low each trip though? Its been every 10 for some time and from April 6 there are some longer gaps in the timetable.
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Post by jimmi on Mar 28, 2024 20:28:22 GMT 1
Beneath me how single deckers were chosen on the 1 Whenever I've been to Harrogate, single deckers have been the correct choice in terms of capacity for most trips on the 1, the only issues is when delays or missing trips occur resulting in delays and more passengers boarding the same bus, if everything is working as intended, single deckers are big enough IMO.
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Post by YN56_Scanias! on Mar 31, 2024 1:08:39 GMT 1
Anyone know the number and have a map of the bus that used to go from five lane ends and went passed greengates which used solo srs?
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Post by Burnside on Mar 31, 2024 18:00:00 GMT 1
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Post by YN56_Scanias! on Mar 31, 2024 19:16:54 GMT 1
thank you very much. Spot on just what I needed
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 11, 2024 18:22:38 GMT 1
According to WYIS Harrogate Volvo Electric 805 is back with Volvo in Poland. Given their is now a weekday peak requirement for all seven left, its return or replacement would seem to be urgent. The tracking of it on Bustimes in October and 8 Mar is clearly a ticket machine error.
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Post by WYBS on Apr 13, 2024 15:05:17 GMT 1
Rather exciting news posted by Paul Turner on the Transdev Enthusiasts Facebook group today:
All the 16x '36' B5TLs will move onto Airleine and Dalesway once the E400EVs have entered service this summer.
Some will be in Aireline colours, some in Dalesway, and some in standard Keighley livery.
The full post reads:
A weekend fleet update: Following the service changes at York 207 208 209 213 214 and 216 are being withdrawn at the end of their lease. Two may see use this month for the Harrogate flower show.
When the new Enviro 400EVs enter service at Harrogate in the summer all 16 B5s will move to Keighley for Aireline and Dalesway. 2402/3, 2756-9 and 2791-6 will replace B7s in the school fleet while 2776 to 2778 will move to either Blackburn or Burnley to replace B7s there. At the same time 2017 will go for repaint for Burnley.
We are expecting a demo E400EV next week which will see use on the 36.
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Post by rodneytrotter on Apr 13, 2024 15:15:01 GMT 1
Very Nice upgrades for people who live on the Aireline and Dalesway routes.
Can't they renew the lease of the Versas and send to Blackburn to replace the old B7RLE's that are there?
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 13, 2024 15:48:42 GMT 1
Very Nice upgrades for people who live on the Aireline and Dalesway routes. Can't they renew the lease of the Versas and send to Blackburn to replace the old B7RLE's that are there? Capacity issues with that with 8 fewer seats.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 14, 2024 7:28:09 GMT 1
Rather exciting news posted by Paul Turner on the Transdev Enthusiasts Facebook group today: All the 16x '36' B5TLs will move onto Airleine and Dalesway once the E400EVs have entered service this summer. Some will be in Aireline colours, some in Dalesway, and some in standard Keighley livery. The full post reads: A weekend fleet update: Following the service changes at York 207 208 209 213 214 and 216 are being withdrawn at the end of their lease. Two may see use this month for the Harrogate flower show. When the new Enviro 400EVs enter service at Harrogate in the summer all 16 B5s will move to Keighley for Aireline and Dalesway. 2402/3, 2756-9 and 2791-6 will replace B7s in the school fleet while 2776 to 2778 will move to either Blackburn or Burnley to replace B7s there. At the same time 2017 will go for repaint for Burnley. We are expecting a demo E400EV next week which will see use on the 36. I was thinking of waiting until November to come to Leeds. It is easier to fit all the buses in there by daylight than in other places I am visitng soon. For the E400EVs to be coming in the summer, this should be late enough to guarantee a ride on one!
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Post by Burnside on Apr 14, 2024 21:57:11 GMT 1
Very Nice upgrades for people who live on the Aireline and Dalesway routes. Can't they renew the lease of the Versas and send to Blackburn to replace the old B7RLE's that are there? Don't forget that there are also eCitaro single deckers due for Harrogate, so some of the 58 plate B7RLE'S will be surplus then so will possibly be able to move to Blackburn.
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Post by pricel on Apr 14, 2024 22:10:45 GMT 1
Very Nice upgrades for people who live on the Aireline and Dalesway routes. Can't they renew the lease of the Versas and send to Blackburn to replace the old B7RLE's that are there? Don't forget that there are also eCitaro single deckers due for Harrogate, so some of the 58 plate B7RLE'S will be surplus then so will possibly be able to move to Blackburn. And hopefully some for BronteBus, they're getting tired.
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 16, 2024 21:55:30 GMT 1
Enviro 400EV AD24BEV is in use on the 36 - today its workings track initially as getting as far south as only Pannal Spacey Houses but then heading north from Chapel Allerton. Then a return from Harrogate to Leeds continuing north to Ripon. For the rest of the day it was limited to the Harrogate-Ripon section.
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