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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2023 7:07:53 GMT 1
The government is the problem, not Mick Lynch and his gang. These drivers aren't paid enough for what they do, as its obivious there is a driver shortage in both the train and bus industry. One strike every 6 months? Are you happy running with some sort of dictatorship here? Instead of going after the workers, go after the rich, the ones who managed to avoid paying up to £120 billion pound a year in tax? They're the problem. The workers want a decent wage and terms and conditions, just because your job and people don't have the guts too, doesn't mean everyone else has to suffer with bad wages. People like you are the exactly people the government love, lets have a race to the bottom and lets all the working class fight with each other, instead of looking at the MPs who are the greediest bunchiest of villains in society, they get paid 84,000 for doing what? Nothing at all? They've just had a 2 percent pay rise. You do realise the impact of a strike is to make as much disruption as possible? Perhaps, if the government tossers cared for the workers, and the lower classes, we wouldn't even be in this situation in the first place? I'm all with the strikers, if the daily mail brigade, cry then that's too bad! Thats the issue, the Daily Mail, hates the working class and anyone who is disabled or a pensioner, they are a Tory mouthpiece.
You're going after the wrong people! Go after the stupid rich, and the MPs, don't go after the working class, who have to suffer! Do you want the trains to be automated? I wouldn't, do you want to be no customer service people on the platform? Do you want the disabled to struggle to get on a train without any platform staff? All these private companies care about one thing, their shareholders, they don't care about the staff, they don't care about the customers!
We need to be more like the French and stand up for ourselves, instead of telling corrupt rich people, and politicians telling us what to do! The government will want you to work until you drop, this government wants to remove all of the workers rights! Striking is the last resort for the common man! What do you expect people want to be? Slaves, because thats what the government will want to do, bring back the workhouses, remove benefits from the disabled and geniunely sick, don't forget the state pension as well, remove minimum wage, pay workers as less as possible, overwork them to death? Is that what you want?
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Post by deerfold on May 19, 2023 9:08:53 GMT 1
Additional RMT strike day announcement Friday 2 June They can p*** right off with that one, how the hell are people able to plan for time off when this sort of sly tactics happen, I for one will happily give em some right stick on the picket line come that day, tossers should have to give 6 months notice to strike and only be allowed to strike one day every 6 months, this useless government are quick to act on soft protesters such as the Not My King brigade, but are too soft to act on Mick thingy Lynch and his gang. You've made the point before that you're happy to be paid less than you're worth. Fortunately not everyone believes that. There's no need to be abusive to people standing up for themselves. I'd especially advise against doing that in real life.
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Post by Burnside on May 19, 2023 17:56:02 GMT 1
Additional RMT strike day announcement Friday 2 June They can p*** right off with that one, how the hell are people able to plan for time off when this sort of sly tactics happen, I for one will happily give em some right stick on the picket line come that day, tossers should have to give 6 months notice to strike and only be allowed to strike one day every 6 months, this useless government are quick to act on soft protesters such as the Not My King brigade, but are too soft to act on Mick thingy Lynch and his gang. What a joke. This dispute isn't only about pay, as you might realise if you bothered to read beyond the headlines. Firstly, the vast majority of front line rail workers do not earn a fortune. Consider cleaners for example. Not only do they clean up after others who can't be bothered putting their rubbish in a bin and cleaning up puke, pee and poo (yes, it does happen!) when people haven't managed (or even tried) to get to the toilet, during the pandemic they were still out cleaning and disinfecting trains during the day and at night yet in many cases they earn only slightly above minimum wage. I think a pay rise is well deserved even without taking the cost of living crisis into account. Oh, and as for "let drivers leave and replace them with people willing to work for less", who do you think will drive the trains in the 12-18 months between the qualified drivers leaving and the new starters being trained up to the required standard? It'd be a bloody long wait for a train during that time! Secondly, the government have told the Rail Delivery Group (which represents the train operators) that no pay offer is to be made without an attack on staff's terms and conditions and the threat of ticket office closures and more driver only trains. Regardless of the pay dispute, the fact that the government and train operators are trying to remove the roles that staff carry out and at the same time make the railway (which, as well documented in the case of Southern, is failing to meet existing standards on accessibility) even less accessible and less safe, why on earth would staff sit back and let it happen? Although you've made it clear that you're happy for your employer to run roughshod over you, the same is not true for rail staff. The proposals would see less maintenance and inspections of the infrastructure (clearly nothing learned from the Railtrack fiasco), ticket offices closed which would discriminate against those with no mobile or computer and unable to use the machines on platforms (which are overly complicated and woefully unreliable in the first place) and would also make it harder than it already is for the less abled to travel, particularly if combined with driver only operation, meaning nobody at the station to assist with boarding and nobody on the train either. To make matters worse, the RDG and government have also made it perfectly clear they have no intention of finding a resolution by offering a pay rise split over 2 years, but stipulating the second year rise is linked to the above changes and would only be awarded if the union agreed to end the dispute meaning they couldn't resume strike action later. So essentially asking turkey's to vote for Christmas. You may see the strikes as an inconvenience, but without strike action in the past, you wouldn't have things like sick pay or holidays. If these proposals went through exactly to the extent the government wants, there is a vastly increased likelihood of disabled passengers being stranded at unstaffed stations (driver only may work in London where every station is currently staffed but having nobody to provide assistance is going to be more problematic at stations like Weeton, Ravensthorpe, Micklefield and even places like Hebden Bridge, Keighley or Meadowhall. Not to mention that with less routine maintenance and less inspections, the likelihood of another Hatfield, Potters Bar or Grayrigg is increased. But, sure, rail staff should just accept their lot and not inconvenience you...
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Post by adam on May 19, 2023 22:09:24 GMT 1
Talking from a northern point of view we haven't had a payrise since 2019, inflation has rocketed since then. If they stopped attacking the T&Cs then chances are we'd accept a below inflation payrise
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jun 22, 2023 18:55:00 GMT 1
All RMT members involved in the dispute have been instructed to take strike action and NOT BOOK ON for any shifts between 0001 and 2359 Hours on
Thursday 20th July 2023
Saturday 22nd July 2023
Saturday 29th July 2023.
There will be very limited Northern services on Thursday 20, Saturday 22 and Saturday 29 July
Some journeys will be affected on days following strikes. Services may start up later than usual on Friday, 21 July, Sunday, 23, and Sunday, 30 July.
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Post by Username on Jun 22, 2023 18:59:33 GMT 1
Honestly, how has someone not acknowledged their poor working conditions? Railway strikes have been going on for a year now, it's ridiculous.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 12, 2023 16:28:45 GMT 1
Industrial action is due to take place on Saturday, 26 August, and Saturday, 2 September 2023, in England.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 16:50:27 GMT 1
Honestly, how has someone not acknowledged their poor working conditions? Railway strikes have been going on for a year now, it's ridiculous. I reckon the conservatives are doing it on purpose and not doing anything about it because we're not far off the next election and I cannot see them winning, so when Labour get in, it will become their problem, in hopes of Labour failing as well, and then conservatives hope they will get back in. The conservatives know about it, they just don't care about it. Then you have GB news which is a conservative mouth piece, and against any poor person or working people who struggle. and GB news stirrups up the far right fan base. The presenters of that channel are anti working class. Conservatives believe in work till you drop, Im not surprised they brought back workhouses for the disabled and elderly and poor. Thats how cruel I think they are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 16:59:13 GMT 1
Honestly, how has someone not acknowledged their poor working conditions? Railway strikes have been going on for a year now, it's ridiculous. I reckon the conservatives are doing it on purpose and not doing anything about it because we're not far off the next election and I cannot see them winning, so when Labour get in, it will become their problem, in hopes of Labour failing as well, and then conservatives hope they will get back in. The conservatives know about it, they just don't care about it. Then you have GB news which is a conservative mouth piece, and against any poor person or working people who struggle. and GB news stirrups up the far right fan base. The presenters of that channel are anti working class. Conservatives believe in work till you drop, Im not surprised they brought back workhouses for the disabled and elderly and poor. Thats how cruel I think they are. Spot on, add on the fact they want anyone who could get a car to have one (extra revenue from the various taxes for them) whilst the railways require funding. If they thought they could get away with it they would probably have all the railways closed, tarmacked over & turned into toll roads/motorways as soon as possible & probably try to use the strikes as an excuse to do it.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 13, 2023 15:36:56 GMT 1
Indeed, the government do seem to have a simple attitude along the lines of This is what we are offering you - you strike if you want to.
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Post by deerfold on Aug 13, 2023 17:52:06 GMT 1
Was already not looking forward to it taking me two days to get to deepest Denmark - looks like it'll now be taking me three.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 17, 2023 17:02:12 GMT 1
Please note that industrial action on the following dates will only impact CrossCountry services. All other operators are expecting to run a normal service.
Saturday 19 August Saturday 9 September
Industrial action is also due to take place on Saturday, 26 August, and Saturday, 2 September 2023, affecting all lines in England.
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Post by deerfold on Aug 18, 2023 13:15:39 GMT 1
Industrial action is due to take place on Saturday, 26 August, and Saturday, 2 September 2023, in England. Yes, you mentioned that on 12 August.
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