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Post by Burnside on Aug 8, 2020 14:45:59 GMT 1
Dales & District Solo spotted at Silsden (roundabout with Bypass) yesterday. Would be the right time for it to be on Jacksons 903 and would tie in with one of jacksons Solo's being on tow a couple of days earlier?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 10:25:53 GMT 1
1004 on the 189 today judging by the diagram it's on it will go to Leeds twice today, very inappropriate for this bus to be on this route, but I guess that is all they had I am guessing? A Mini E200 is better than no bus at all I suppose.
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 10, 2020 12:02:10 GMT 1
1004 on the 189 today judging by the diagram it's on it will go to Leeds twice today, very inappropriate for this bus to be on this route, but I guess that is all they had I am guessing? A Mini E200 is better than no bus at all I suppose. actually depending on the timings for it to be in Leeds they could be times when footfall is low so 1004 might be best suited
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 12:07:03 GMT 1
1004 on the 189 today judging by the diagram it's on it will go to Leeds twice today, very inappropriate for this bus to be on this route, but I guess that is all they had I am guessing? A Mini E200 is better than no bus at all I suppose. actually depending on the timings for it to be in Leeds they could be times when footfall is low so 1004 might be best suited The diagram it's on has been singles and doubles, usually depends day by day, the next 189 going to Leeds after 1004 today is 1307. I can't imagine passengers will be pleased with 1004 being on it! It'll get full rather quickly!
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 10, 2020 13:14:42 GMT 1
actually depending on the timings for it to be in Leeds they could be times when footfall is low so 1004 might be best suited The diagram it's on has been singles and doubles, usually depends day by day, the next 189 going to Leeds after 1004 today is 1307. I can't imagine passengers will be pleased with 1004 being on it! It'll get full rather quickly! not really as they may wait for next 189 or get the 410. It also depends on what Arriva's seating capacities are on each as before the increase with introduction of face coverings bren made mandatory for public transport
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 13:19:22 GMT 1
The diagram it's on has been singles and doubles, usually depends day by day, the next 189 going to Leeds after 1004 today is 1307. I can't imagine passengers will be pleased with 1004 being on it! It'll get full rather quickly! not really as they may wait for next 189 or get the 410. It also depends on what Arriva's seating capacities are on each as before the increase with introduction of face coverings bren made mandatory for public transport I still don't think those buses are suited for any Leeds routes though!
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 10, 2020 14:49:52 GMT 1
not really as they may wait for next 189 or get the 410. It also depends on what Arriva's seating capacities are on each as before the increase with introduction of face coverings bren made mandatory for public transport I still don't think those buses are suited for any Leeds routes though! That's all well and good but at the end of the day the inspectors and planners may have determined the loadings in that particular running board at present only warrants a mini e200 as they'll be monitoring loadings carefully to see what can be used where especially as Castleford are doing fleet maintence for Selby so will need to have flexibility for what can go on each route. That's also bearing in mind that DFT have also requested operators return to 100% pre-covid 19 operations in September to have use of the extra funding made available.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 15:05:11 GMT 1
I still don't think those buses are suited for any Leeds routes though! That's all well and good but at the end of the day the inspectors and planners may have determined the loadings in that particular running board at present only warrants a mini e200 as they'll be monitoring loadings carefully to see what can be used where especially as Castleford are doing fleet maintence for Selby so will need to have flexibility for what can go on each route. That's also bearing in mind that DFT have also requested operators return to 100% pre-covid 19 operations in September to have use of the extra funding made available. The particular board the E200 is on today last week had Enviro 400 on for 4 days of that board and the other day last week had 1481 on it for that board, but 1481 got swapped for a double later on So the board that 1004 is on is usually a double, I think it's down to maintenance of other vehicles rather than, inspectors determing the loadings for that board, and remember this board 1004 is on is one of the last vehicles to leave the depot. Sorry if I came a bit argumentative there, I didn't mean to.
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Post by dlspotter on Aug 10, 2020 23:43:23 GMT 1
1004 on the 189 today judging by the diagram it's on it will go to Leeds twice today, very inappropriate for this bus to be on this route, but I guess that is all they had I am guessing? A Mini E200 is better than no bus at all I suppose. Seen a 159 on a E400MMC again today, surely 189 must receive more pax than 159?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 23:46:59 GMT 1
1004 on the 189 today judging by the diagram it's on it will go to Leeds twice today, very inappropriate for this bus to be on this route, but I guess that is all they had I am guessing? A Mini E200 is better than no bus at all I suppose. Seen a 159 on a E400MMC again today, surely 189 must receive more pax than 159? That's what I thought. 156/159 had the E400, 1309 and 1454 on today, usually the allocation is 2 enviro 200s and 1 random other bus type, but that wasn't the case today. but we don't work for Arriva so we don't know the reasoning, but the board 1004 was working on was enviro 400s today all last week apart from one day. 1452 hasn't been in service for a while might be short of buses who knows?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 13:05:38 GMT 1
1309 on the 411, could be one of the last times you ever see these buses on this route with the next service changes with Arriva restricting them to 187/184/156/159 because of Leeds CAZ.
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Post by jst on Aug 11, 2020 15:17:35 GMT 1
1309 on the 411, could be one of the last times you ever see these buses on this route with the next service changes with Arriva restricting them to 187/184/156/159 because of Leeds CAZ. 1310 has been on the 167/168 too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 15:28:13 GMT 1
1309 on the 411, could be one of the last times you ever see these buses on this route with the next service changes with Arriva restricting them to 187/184/156/159 because of Leeds CAZ. 1310 has been on the 167/168 too. Been a lot of tempos on the 168 lately and their not on there to replace other buses, they've been on the 168 diagrams since of start of the day and usually spend the full day on there. 1309 is on the 411, because it replaced another bus that broke down I think. PS: 1309 isnt on the 411/410 anymore looks like 1452 replaced it.
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Post by deerfold on Aug 11, 2020 15:41:09 GMT 1
Dales & District Solo spotted at Silsden (roundabout with Bypass) yesterday. Would be the right time for it to be on Jacksons 903 and would tie in with one of jacksons Solo's being on tow a couple of days earlier? Yes. They've been using it on the 903 for the last few days. Saw it out today going through Utley. Also saw it yesterday and Friday. Earlier last week they were using a different Jacksons-branded bus from the usual one.
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Post by Burnside on Aug 11, 2020 22:45:47 GMT 1
Dales & District Solo spotted at Silsden (roundabout with Bypass) yesterday. Would be the right time for it to be on Jacksons 903 and would tie in with one of jacksons Solo's being on tow a couple of days earlier? Yes. They've been using it on the 903 for the last few days. Saw it out today going through Utley. Also saw it yesterday and Friday. Earlier last week they were using a different Jacksons-branded bus from the usual one. It's not unheard of for them to put on a Merc Vario minicoach, which i presume is under 25 seats and doesn't fall foul of DDA laws, but i presume this is only when a Solo is unavailable.
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Post by 1071 on Aug 12, 2020 8:41:03 GMT 1
Not entirely sure if I'm putting this in the correct place as there are a few places that I could put it however it is something that I spotted yesterday. I saw that both 1980 and 1981 have both been unbranded ready for transfer elsewhere, clearly unbranded and not panels swapped because you can see the outlines, presumably 1982 has been done too however I didn't see that one and 1983 is already unbranded although it does spend most of the time on 254/255. I hope we get something good on 255 as a replacement and can confirm that 1972-1979 are definitely still branded apart from 1976 on the offside where the panels have been swapped.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 8:46:56 GMT 1
Not entirely sure if I'm putting this in the correct place as there are a few places that I could put it however it is something that I spotted yesterday. I saw that both 1980 and 1981 have both been unbranded ready for transfer elsewhere, clearly unbranded and not panels swapped because you can see the outlines, presumably 1982 has been done too however I didn't see that one and 1983 is already unbranded although it does spend most of the time on 254/255. I hope we get something good on 255 as a replacement and can confirm that 1972-1979 are definitely still branded apart from 1976 on the offside where the panels have been swapped. Why would you get new vehicles for the 254/255? I don't think those vehicles would get transferred else where.Those Enviro 400 MMC's are only 3 years old? Plus I can't see anything that is better than those MMC's as a replacement. Only route which would get new vehicles every 3-4 years is the 110.
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Post by twy7 on Aug 12, 2020 10:29:07 GMT 1
Not entirely sure if I'm putting this in the correct place as there are a few places that I could put it however it is something that I spotted yesterday. I saw that both 1980 and 1981 have both been unbranded ready for transfer elsewhere, clearly unbranded and not panels swapped because you can see the outlines, presumably 1982 has been done too however I didn't see that one and 1983 is already unbranded although it does spend most of the time on 254/255. I hope we get something good on 255 as a replacement and can confirm that 1972-1979 are definitely still branded apart from 1976 on the offside where the panels have been swapped. Why would you get new vehicles for the 254/255? I don't think those vehicles would get transferred else where.Those Enviro 400 MMC's are only 3 years old? Plus I can't see anything that is better than those MMC's as a replacement. Only route which would get new vehicles every 3-4 years is the 110. A Castleford driver told me they were getting more of the E400 MMC for the new 164 so it can inter work with the 189. It could be these if the branding has been taken off
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 10:42:30 GMT 1
Why would you get new vehicles for the 254/255? I don't think those vehicles would get transferred else where.Those Enviro 400 MMC's are only 3 years old? Plus I can't see anything that is better than those MMC's as a replacement. Only route which would get new vehicles every 3-4 years is the 110. A Castleford driver told me they were getting more of the E400 MMC for the new 164 so it can inter work with the 189. It could be these if the branding has been taken off Ah right that makes sense, what would be going to Heckmondwike then in return? Pulsar's I'm guessing?
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Post by twy7 on Aug 12, 2020 10:55:19 GMT 1
A Castleford driver told me they were getting more of the E400 MMC for the new 164 so it can inter work with the 189. It could be these if the branding has been taken off Ah right that makes sense, what would be going to Heckmondwike then in return? Pulsar's I'm guessing? Not sure but they where going to get some of the old 110 E400 from wakefield before the wright bus order was cancelled Apparently it is a really big fleet move with loads changing depots
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 10:58:48 GMT 1
Ah right that makes sense, what would be going to Heckmondwike then in return? Pulsar's I'm guessing? Not sure but they where going to get some of the old 110 E400 from wakefield before the wright bus order was cancelled Apparently it is a really big fleet move with loads changing depots But those was for the 268 though? Not the 254/255 I believe. We will have to wait and see, but it's very exciting these changes.
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 12, 2020 11:22:14 GMT 1
A Castleford driver told me they were getting more of the E400 MMC for the new 164 so it can inter work with the 189. It could be these if the branding has been taken off Ah right that makes sense, what would be going to Heckmondwike then in return? Pulsar's I'm guessing? something tells me the rest of the eclipses (1105-1112) could be going back on 254/255 and they might have something else e.g the commanders or tempos for use on 228, 256, 261 & 271 routes alongside 1058 & 1059 that are usually on these routes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 11:27:44 GMT 1
Ah right that makes sense, what would be going to Heckmondwike then in return? Pulsar's I'm guessing? something tells me the rest of the eclipses (1105-1112) could be going back on 254/255 and they might have something else e.g the commanders or tempos for use on 228, 256, 261 & 271 routes alongside 1058 & 1059 that are usually on these routes Tempos could be interesting over there. I always thought the tempos could be good at Dewsbury but that's just me. But it's a case of wait and see like I said but it's gonna be interesting to see what happens at the end of the month.
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 12, 2020 11:50:48 GMT 1
something tells me the rest of the eclipses (1105-1112) could be going back on 254/255 and they might have something else e.g the commanders or tempos for use on 228, 256, 261 & 271 routes alongside 1058 & 1059 that are usually on these routes Tempos could be interesting over there. I always thought the tempos could be good at Dewsbury on the 281/282 but that's just me. But it's a case of wait and see like I said but it's gonna be interesting to see what happens at the end of the month. now that would be good for 281 and 212/212a (128/128a at a push same for 126/127) but other routes its tight for most buses and come to think of it the 271 has the same problem on the White Lee estates between Heckmondwike & Carlinghow Lane. Also Heckmondwike need a Decker regular for the JF1 as that has a lot of kids on it and singles can't cope with capacity
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 12, 2020 12:27:27 GMT 1
Why would you get new vehicles for the 254/255? I don't think those vehicles would get transferred else where.Those Enviro 400 MMC's are only 3 years old? Plus I can't see anything that is better than those MMC's as a replacement. Only route which would get new vehicles every 3-4 years is the 110. A Castleford driver told me they were getting more of the E400 MMC for the new 164 so it can inter work with the 189. It could be these if the branding has been taken off That makes more sense than the idea that Versas would be used on the 189. I'm guessing they would need to transfer over to Castleford about 3
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