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Post by deerfold on Mar 24, 2020 21:43:56 GMT 1
As mentioned on the TJ Walsh thread, they're not running from Thursday as they're closing down.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 24, 2020 22:09:36 GMT 1
Connexionsbuses are to start a reduced emergency timetable from tomorrow, Wednesday March 25th. X1, X12, X52, X70 & 13. Would be an improvement for the X12 as the previous Saturday timetable they were using has no service. Looks like it will interwork with the X52.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Mar 25, 2020 9:58:57 GMT 1
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Post by passenger859 on Mar 25, 2020 20:24:18 GMT 1
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Mar 25, 2020 21:39:22 GMT 1
From Monday (30 March), first (W Yorkshire) will have a reduced service, Sunday frequencies during the day (offpeak), with peak and early mornings TBC.
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Post by martinsfp on Mar 26, 2020 0:56:16 GMT 1
From Monday (30 March), first (W Yorkshire) will have a reduced service, Sunday frequencies during the day (offpeak), with peak and early mornings TBC. I heard this as a rumour the other day, via a driver. That indicates they were discussing this internally as early as Monday. Makes sense, but this must be a nightmare for the operators.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 27, 2020 18:01:21 GMT 1
Further reduction by Transdev from next Monday applicable - main Harrogate services down to hourly bar half hourly to Knaresborough (hourly on Sundays and evenings) served by the combined routing that was used for late night Saturday services.
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Post by rossbailey on Mar 27, 2020 19:03:27 GMT 1
Ross Travel services temporary suspended from tonight Emergency timetables for services X1, X12, X52, X70, 13, 16, 64, 412-X70 & 940 are now all listed. www.connexionsbuses.com/uncategorized/emergency-timetables-from-25th-march/Worth noting they have received notification from Metro that they no longer wish the Tendered services 923, 963, 964 & 781 to operate from Sunday 29th March 2020.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Mar 27, 2020 21:15:55 GMT 1
first Bradford 30/03/20
Roughly normal starting time Monday to Saturday, but Sunday frequency and times
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Mar 27, 2020 21:18:17 GMT 1
Keighley bus Changes from 30/03/20
60 hourly
67 early start ex Keighley 05:50, then as Sunday frequency and times
662 hourly :00, last trip 21:55 ex Keighley
B2 hourly all day.
B3 EVERY TWO HOURS until 18:10 ex Hebden Bridge (no evening service)
K10-19 Morton, Wilsden etc. CANCELLED
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Mar 27, 2020 22:20:10 GMT 1
Arriva changes from Monday 30 March www.arrivabus.co.uk/coronavirus-ykAccording to my Arriva mates, Dewsbury staff will move to Heckmondwike and use their vehicles for the foreseeable future
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Post by deerfold on Mar 28, 2020 10:50:50 GMT 1
Keighley bus Changes from 30/03/20 B3 Hebden Bridge EVERY TWO HOURS K17 Morton, Wilsden etc. CANCELLED 662 frequency halved to hourly. Shorts on the 60 removed, so that's hourly. 72 every 2 hours 762 every 2 hours K10-K19 withdrawn Evening B3 withdrawn,
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Post by stevieinselby on Mar 28, 2020 12:05:19 GMT 1
Arriva are cutting some routes from Selby down to just two journeys a day (4, 476 and 493), while others are dropping to every 2–3 hours (6, 401, 405). The 415 is being kept at hourly.
The buses that are down to 2 journeys a day look like they are pretty pointless, as at one end of the route they turn round and go straight back, while at the other end there is up to a 3-hour wait for the return journey, which is far longer than anyone needs to get round a supermarket, but with most other shops and cafés being closed that leaves a long time to kill while people are not supposed to be going out unnecessarily ... but they don't generally look like they would be much good for people going to work. I can't help feeling they might have been better off keeping the normal timetable but reducing them to just 2 or 3 days a week, so that on the days they are running they provide a more usable service, but they aren't running too many unused services.
The one that surprised me the most was that the 402/403 is being cancelled completely. While I know that some of those journeys can be made by train, it seems odd to keep some of the other less well-used routes running while this one is dropped.
Confusingly, where routes are split registration, they are shown on separate tables (often not even adjacent), so for example it now looks as though the 405 is run as separate sections Selby to Eggborough, and Eggborough to Doncaster, whereas as far as I can tell from the times the buses are running through as normal.
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Post by stevieinselby on Mar 28, 2020 12:09:39 GMT 1
Coastliner are running hourly from Leeds to Malton, infrequent services from Malton to Scarborough, Thornton-le-Dale and Whitby, but buses are not running through and the connections don't look great in a lot of cases. CityZap is cancelled, passengers will need to use the 843.
CastleLine, 194 and the other village services around Harrogate and Knaresborough (8, 21, 22, 24) are down to 2 or 3 journeys a day.
Other York local services are generally about every 2 hours, and the Saturday 19 is dropped.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 28, 2020 12:47:07 GMT 1
Bear in mind they will have usage data from this week to go on, as in theory most key workers will be travelling on specific journeys.
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Post by rossbailey on Mar 28, 2020 15:40:30 GMT 1
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 28, 2020 17:03:03 GMT 1
CastleLine, 194 and the other village services around Harrogate and Knaresborough (8, 21, 22, 24) are down to 2 or 3 journeys a day. Given the timetable for the 22 starts and end its day at Knaresborough now more than ever it would be logical to have it worked by the Starbeck depot. The 8 and 21 will interwork at Knaresborough hence the lack of through 8 workings between Harrogate and Wetherby
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Post by 77syk7 on Mar 28, 2020 17:51:23 GMT 1
A quick look at the First's emergency timetables from next Monday indicate as predicted, a generally Sunday service throughout the off-peak with additional M-F pk journeys. However, there are a few noteworthy points;- * 535 Rye Lane running by First throughout the week (not just Sunday) * 537 Hx-Hd via Outlane reduced to am pk only * 571 Hx-Bd via Southowram - the Su timetable means there are no journeys in the off peak morning * 579 Sowerby has just an Hourly frequency following the Su timetable - may have expected this to be 30 mins. * 590/2 Calder Valley - this is the one I do not understand; both routes appear to operate every 30 minutes through the full length to Rochdale / Burnley therefore giving the 592 an improved frequency over the Tod-Burnley section than normal! The times seem to be haphazard, even duplicating two buses at the same time - must be an error? * 681/2 Hx-Bd via Shelf (run by Bd depot) - the Su frequency is 30 mins during the daytime and this frequency is maintained , therefore giving a higher frequency than might be expected (1st time I have ever praised this fact on this route)
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Post by 77syk7 on Mar 28, 2020 18:02:48 GMT 1
Addition to above - Yorkshire Tiger's services are more predictable and most seem to be following the Sunday timetable all week. I can now see that the 571 is normally run by First on Sunday mornings - this explains the omission by first outlined above. Maybe surprising that the 561/2 Circulars via Barkisland / Mill Bank etc retain their frequencies giving an Hourly combined. Also 343 Hx-Hd is running 2 hourly and this is presumably to retain a link to HRI.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Mar 28, 2020 23:35:07 GMT 1
As mentioned earlier, most routes will have Sunday frequencies on Mondays to Saturdays, noting that the operator may change once or twice a day!
Yorkshire Tiger will run a Sunday timetable in Bradford but early (morning peak) trips will be operated by first on the following routes: 571, 630, 633 (Bradford -> Shipley Market) and 680.
* 629 WILL run, every 90' until 18:40 ex Shipley.
* Leeds/Bradford Airport will only be served between 07::00 and 14:00, outside these times 737 terminates at Yeadon, 747 bypasses the Airport, and 757 doesn't operate.
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Post by 77syk7 on Mar 29, 2020 16:06:20 GMT 1
I am well aware that I have posted info without doing thorough research - so apologies. * 536/7 Hx-Hd as they are following Sunday timetables throughout the week - First are running the additional am pk journeys and Yorkshire Tiger running the rest of the day on an hourly frequency combined. * 563 Halifax - Copley - Brighouse, this is being run on a 2 hourly frequency. * 590/2 Calder Valley - another look at the timetables may mean they are running duplicates, but this is the one I cannot fathom!
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 29, 2020 16:29:53 GMT 1
I think the 590/592 is an error and each service will be running hourly
The 579 is another complicated one due to Tiger running Sunday tenders and First running Sunday commercially and peak extras.
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Post by moorside on Mar 29, 2020 21:57:13 GMT 1
I see on the Metro website that Stotts will no longer be running any services from tomorrow. What with that, the loss of TJ Walsh, and the "Key Worker" timetables of Yorkshire Tiger, First etc, it seems that many of the more rural areas will not have any bus service at all for the next few weeks at least. I have noticed these in Calderdale: no 526 service between Bradshaw Church, Queensbury and Hungerhill / Shelf, so no buses to Mountain; 20 and 24 on truncated routes so no buses to Wainstalls; no 504 so no buses between Pavement Lane and Denholme Gate. No doubt these are all lightly-loaded routes at the best of times, but I wonder how many of them will ever come back?
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Post by stephen01 on Mar 29, 2020 22:40:22 GMT 1
I see on the Metro website that Stotts will no longer be running any services from tomorrow. What with that, the loss of TJ Walsh, and the "Key Worker" timetables of Yorkshire Tiger, First etc, it seems that many of the more rural areas will not have any bus service at all for the next few weeks at least. I have noticed these in Calderdale: no 526 service between Bradshaw Church, Queensbury and Hungerhill / Shelf, so no buses to Mountain; 20 and 24 on truncated routes so no buses to Wainstalls; no 504 so no buses between Pavement Lane and Denholme Gate. No doubt these are all lightly-loaded routes at the best of times, but I wonder how many of them will ever come back? some of Stotts Holme Valley routes are been covered by South Pennine CT looking at their emergency timetables
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Post by wibble on Mar 29, 2020 23:22:35 GMT 1
It's a hard one to balance for the bigger operators, they want to do the right thing and keep services available to the key workers, but they are haemorrhaging money, which most of the smaller operators, as you have seen, have just suspended services. Hopefully the government will support them to do the right thing.
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