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Post by SCH117X on May 1, 2019 22:22:08 GMT 1
Just noticed 1712 (former Rosso 206) B7RLE is now at Starbeck and Pride of the North Transdev Go President 2725 (V78MOA) has returned there from Keighley. The B7RLE is presumably nominally for the 8 as that is being worked by B7RLEs.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 1, 2019 22:47:57 GMT 1
No sign of it running on bustimes.org yet so I expect WYIS are a bit previous like they often are.
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Post by leedsbusman on May 2, 2019 0:17:49 GMT 1
Just noticed 1712 (former Rosso 206) B7RLE is now at Starbeck and Pride of the North Transdev Go President 2725 (V78MOA) has returned there from Keighley. The B7RLE is presumably nominally for the 8 as that is being worked by B7RLEs. 2725 has moved to Harrogate - not sure why it says 'back to' as it has been at Keighley, other than a day at York for 197 since it entered service in Sept 18. WYIS has also missed 2721s move back to Harrogate several months ago. 15 and 1039 are withdrawn. It also has 423 listed at Keighley but it's back at Rosso after a short loan.
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Post by SCH117X on May 2, 2019 18:28:50 GMT 1
2725 has moved to Harrogate - not sure why it says 'back to' as it has been at Keighley, other than a day at York for 197 since it entered service in Sept 18. Was it not at Harrogate originally - photos on Flickr of it at York reference it coming from Harrogate where it was in service.
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Post by leedsbusman on May 2, 2019 19:35:43 GMT 1
2725 has moved to Harrogate - not sure why it says 'back to' as it has been at Keighley, other than a day at York for 197 since it entered service in Sept 18. Was it not at Harrogate originally - photos on Flickr of it at York reference it coming from Harrogate where it was in service. No it has never operated at Harrogate until now, other than its York visit it has only been used at Keighley.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 7, 2019 20:28:10 GMT 1
Alex has tweeted that 8 Enviro 400s are heading to the fleet in July for schools work.
He doesn’t say for which depot but I’m guessing it’ll either be Rochdale or Keighley
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Post by js12345678910 on May 7, 2019 21:22:32 GMT 1
719 back at Keighley 718 withdrawn
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Post by stephen01 on May 7, 2019 23:00:09 GMT 1
Alex has tweeted that 8 Enviro 400s are heading to the fleet in July for schools work. He doesn’t say for which depot but I’m guessing it’ll either be Rochdale or Keighley strange how you've got an exact number when i saw the same tweet it said some e400s for school work to join the fleet. They could also be for any branch of the company
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 7, 2019 23:04:18 GMT 1
They could, but I'm guessing they will be for either Rochdale or Keighley
Harrogate have just got a properly liveried school fleet of Presidents York and Malton don't have any schools Burnley and Blackburn have a bit, but LCC don't seem to care about any level of spec or age
TfGM have an age limit on schools, which is why I guess Rochdale
They could also be for Keighley as Metro are keen for decent vehicles to be used on yellow bus
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Post by Marcus on May 7, 2019 23:22:56 GMT 1
Alex has tweeted that 8 Enviro 400s are heading to the fleet in July for schools work. He doesn’t say for which depot but I’m guessing it’ll either be Rochdale or Keighley strange how you've got an exact number when i saw the same tweet it said some e400s for school work to join the fleet. They could also be for any branch of the company Attachments:
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Post by sharksmith on May 9, 2019 16:36:15 GMT 1
My guess would be 5 Streetdecks for Cityzap, 4 Streetdecks to replace the four Keighley Bus Company liveried deckers which are used on Aireline.
Then half the singles for the 7 in Harrogate and half for the 1 in Blackburn. I'm only guessing at those, particularly the 7 as I assume the current B7RLE's will not meet emission standards for Leeds next year?
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Post by scania60065 on May 9, 2019 23:09:16 GMT 1
Was it not at Harrogate originally - photos on Flickr of it at York reference it coming from Harrogate where it was in service. No it has never operated at Harrogate until now, other than its York visit it has only been used at Keighley. It was at Harrogate for at least 6months before it moved to keighley not sure if it did any schools in that time but it never operate any public service work In keighley or Harrogate
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Post by scania60065 on May 9, 2019 23:11:45 GMT 1
My guess would be 5 Streetdecks for Cityzap, 4 Streetdecks to replace the four Keighley Bus Company liveried deckers which are used on Aireline. Then half the singles for the 7 in Harrogate and half for the 1 in Blackburn. I'm only guessing at those, particularly the 7 as I assume the current B7RLE's will not meet emission standards for Leeds next year? The B7RLEs can easily be converted and will be similar to the firstgroup version of 693s and 694s at first
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Post by leedsbusman on May 10, 2019 7:18:39 GMT 1
No it has never operated at Harrogate until now, other than its York visit it has only been used at Keighley. It was at Harrogate for at least 6months before it moved to keighley not sure if it did any schools in that time but it never operate any public service work In keighley or Harrogate Sorry but that's not the case, it remained at Blackburn between repaint in spring 2018 and entry into service in the autumn. It didn't go to Harrogate.
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Post by SCH117X on May 11, 2019 12:08:12 GMT 1
No sign of it running on bustimes.org yet so I expect WYIS are a bit previous like they often are. Has turned up now at Starbcek
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 12, 2019 17:12:51 GMT 1
WYIS now say that ex Rosso 1713 will be joining Harrogate as well.
I'm guessing replacing the last B10BLEs at Harrogate
Regarding the school E400s, I'm guessing they will be going to Rosso, as TfGM have a 15 year limit on school contracts, meaning 2742-5 and 2801-5 will now fall foul of this.
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Post by jep2510 on May 12, 2019 21:31:07 GMT 1
WYIS now say that ex Rosso 1713 will be joining Harrogate as well. I'm guessing replacing the last B10BLEs at Harrogate Regarding the school E400s, I'm guessing they will be going to Rosso, as TfGM have a 15 year limit on school contracts, meaning 2742-5 and 2801-5 will now fall foul of this. Spotted 1713 arriving at Starbeck on Friday unbranded
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 6, 2019 18:02:50 GMT 1
Announced today that the new buses are 5 Streetdecks for Cityzap and 13 e200mmc for Blackburn for the 1
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Post by js12345678910 on Jun 6, 2019 21:56:20 GMT 1
Doesn’t appear to have been announced here, presumable due to no WYIS update recently but 1867 has been working out of keighley recently
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 9, 2019 9:28:11 GMT 1
Announced today that the new buses are 5 Streetdecks for Cityzap and 13 e200mmc for Blackburn for the 1 The Enviro 200 - MMCs are quite a change from previous Optare and Volvo choices for Transdev.
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Post by adamw on Jun 9, 2019 12:17:09 GMT 1
Interesting that only 18 of the 22 vehicles ordered for this year have been announced.
I think it's fairly clear that the other four 'deckers may well be something else - I'd suggest that if they were more StreetDecks they'd have been announced with these.
The E200 MMCs seem a logical choice for the 1 - they are presumably 11.8m versions, but I'm still a little surprised they've moved on from Optare, unless Optare couldn't meet their delivery timescales.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jun 9, 2019 15:47:05 GMT 1
Interesting that only 18 of the 22 vehicles ordered for this year have been announced. I think it's fairly clear that the other four 'deckers may well be something else - I'd suggest that if they were more StreetDecks they'd have been announced with these. The E200 MMCs seem a logical choice for the 1 - they are presumably 11.8m versions, but I'm still a little surprised they've moved on from Optare, unless Optare couldn't meet their delivery timescales. Most likely its 4 more B5TLs for Malton to replace 427-429 (and possibly an ‘Extra’ so they don’t need to keep borrowing 421).
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Post by stevieinselby on Jun 9, 2019 16:35:16 GMT 1
The E200 MMCs seem a logical choice for the 1 - they are presumably 11.8m versions, but I'm still a little surprised they've moved on from Optare, unless Optare couldn't meet their delivery timescales. I wonder if they are finding the Optares are underpowered. Since they've gone to all Euro VI, the most powerful diesel engine you can get even in a Versa is only 174bhp, which is doesn't seem enough for a bus marketed as 'interurban'. The standard engine in the E200MMC and Streetlite – which have a similarly lightweight chassis – are over 200bhp, and the E200MMC has a bigger engine available as an option on the full-size model as well.
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Post by adamw on Jun 9, 2019 17:35:42 GMT 1
Interesting that only 18 of the 22 vehicles ordered for this year have been announced. I think it's fairly clear that the other four 'deckers may well be something else - I'd suggest that if they were more StreetDecks they'd have been announced with these. The E200 MMCs seem a logical choice for the 1 - they are presumably 11.8m versions, but I'm still a little surprised they've moved on from Optare, unless Optare couldn't meet their delivery timescales. Most likely its 4 more B5TLs for Malton to replace 427-429 (and possibly an ‘Extra’ so they don’t need to keep borrowing 421). I would agree - it seems logical enough as it would complete the fleet replacement there to the new standard, especially as I'm pretty sure the old B9TLs won't meet the Leeds LEZ standard.
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Post by adamw on Jun 9, 2019 17:41:27 GMT 1
The E200 MMCs seem a logical choice for the 1 - they are presumably 11.8m versions, but I'm still a little surprised they've moved on from Optare, unless Optare couldn't meet their delivery timescales. I wonder if they are finding the Optares are underpowered. Since they've gone to all Euro VI, the most powerful diesel engine you can get even in a Versa is only 174bhp, which is doesn't seem enough for a bus marketed as 'interurban'. The standard engine in the E200MMC and Streetlite – which have a similarly lightweight chassis – are over 200bhp, and the E200MMC has a bigger engine available as an option on the full-size model as well. Certainly, I think, this is the first truly interurban route to come up for replacement since they began buying Versas - the section south to Bolton has, as I recall, a fair amount of fast running. The Aireline 60 I guess is partly interurban, and the 464 is pretty much a set of shorter cross-town routes all joined together. I wonder if Optare might reconsider this in future?
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