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Post by deerfold on Mar 7, 2019 17:01:52 GMT 1
Why are you asking me? As I said, they aren't my personal views and there are some really positive changes in my opinion. You've been asked what you think the changes for the better are. You've replied that these aren't your views. But then repeated that you think there are some really positive changes. Presumably these are the views you're being asked about.
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Post by kommie123 on Mar 7, 2019 21:17:03 GMT 1
Why are you asking me? As I said, they aren't my personal views and there are some really positive changes in my opinion. You've been asked what you think the changes for the better are. You've replied that these aren't your views. But then repeated that you think there are some really positive changes. Presumably these are the views you're being asked about. I've not been asked anything. Re read the post
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Post by deerfold on Mar 8, 2019 0:58:16 GMT 1
You've been asked what you think the changes for the better are. You've replied that these aren't your views. But then repeated that you think there are some really positive changes. Presumably these are the views you're being asked about. I've not been asked anything. Re read the post If you're not being asked anything why did you say "Why are you asking me?"?
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Post by BG12 on Mar 10, 2019 1:36:44 GMT 1
Did anyone attend the meeting in Cleckheaton on Friday evening about the changes? I understand 3 local MPs are now fighting these changes. Understand there are major issues all across the network. Rerouting of 229. Removal of 253/209. Unreliability of 261. You only have to see the comments on Arriva Yorkshires Facebook to see most people are really unhappy with the changes. These aren't my personal views, I think there are some real genuine changes for the better but is it usual for big changes like this to have such widespread negative responses?
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Apr 6, 2019 12:30:14 GMT 1
There's been a development regarding 251/261/271 services. Photos attached below (I'm hoping they're the correct way round)
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Post by kommie123 on Apr 8, 2019 17:15:37 GMT 1
Wouldn't it have been easier to just renumber and reroute the 1750 to 225 and terminate it at Cleckheaton. Likewise start the X25 at Cleckheaton (or New Packhorse) and run it 15 mins earlier.
The rest feels like a bit of a dogs dinner to me. I can see thet are trying though.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 8, 2019 17:44:45 GMT 1
Wouldn't it have been easier to just renumber and reroute the 1750 to 225 and terminate it at Cleckheaton. Likewise start the X25 at Cleckheaton (or New Packhorse) and run it 15 mins earlier. The rest feels like a bit of a dogs dinner to me. I can see thet are trying though. That wouldn’t be welcomed for passengers on the normal 254/255 route who would then see a 30 min gap in service. The X25 can’t run earlier, as it runs off the back of the 256 arrival
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Post by glennh2 on Apr 8, 2019 19:39:40 GMT 1
The 1750 255 already terminates at Cleckheaton 2 minutes before the departure of the planned extra Hunsworth bus
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Post by kommie123 on Apr 8, 2019 21:26:56 GMT 1
Wouldn't it have been easier to just renumber and reroute the 1750 to 225 and terminate it at Cleckheaton. Likewise start the X25 at Cleckheaton (or New Packhorse) and run it 15 mins earlier. The rest feels like a bit of a dogs dinner to me. I can see thet are trying though. That wouldn’t be welcomed for passengers on the normal 254/255 route who would then see a 30 min gap in service. The X25 can’t run earlier, as it runs off the back of the 256 arrival Apologies I didn't spot that.
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Post by solo on Apr 9, 2019 14:38:07 GMT 1
I notice that some stop destinations are still out of date despite me contacting Metro twice in the last month. Carlinghow Lane Batley stops still show Morley, White Rose and Leeds as destinations and Mirfield in the opposite direction. The A62 from the Pheasant Inn to Birstall shows Batley as a destination and nowhere else. A strange one is going from Drighington towards Tong Lane End service 425/7 Bradford. The only destination on these stops is Heckmondwike. Unknown service to me.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Apr 9, 2019 21:50:50 GMT 1
[quote author=" solo" A strange one is going from Drighington towards Tong Lane End service 425/7 Bradford. The only destination on these stops is Heckmondwike. Unknown service to me. [/quote] That will be from many years ago, when Arriva ran 259 (not to be confused with TLC 259) Dewsbury-Heckmondwike-Gomersal-Birkenshaw-Tong-East Bierley-Bradford
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Post by solo on Apr 9, 2019 23:19:58 GMT 1
Service 259 did not run via Drighington. It ran via Birkenshaw and Bierley Bar to Tong Cemetery and then via Dudley Hill to Bradford.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 10, 2019 13:11:54 GMT 1
A strange one is going from Drighington towards Tong Lane End service 425/7 Bradford. The only destination on these stops is Heckmondwike. Unknown service to me. That will be from many years ago, when Arriva ran 259 (not to be confused with TLC 259) Dewsbury-Heckmondwike-Gomersal-Birkenshaw-Tong-East Bierley-Bradford Can't find the original post, but I think the op means westbound on North View Road, currently 425/427 turn left this way towards Bradford to access the Tong Cemetery bus stop. Some years ago, the 'old' 259 from Bradford continued past the Tong Cemetery junction, to turn right into North View Road. Hence the bus stop on this road displays "towards Heckmondwike" !
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Post by solo on Apr 10, 2019 15:31:06 GMT 1
It's a long way off North View Road. It's the stops between Drighington Cross Roads and Tong Lane End. I'm struggling to understand why it's so difficult for people to see Drighington Cross Roads to Tong Lane End.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Apr 12, 2019 9:46:10 GMT 1
It's a long way off North View Road. It's the stops between Drighington Cross Roads and Tong Lane End. I'm struggling to understand why it's so difficult for people to see Drighington Cross Roads to Tong Lane End. Ah, now I understand, I got areas mixed up. The Heckmondwike shown on those stops, are from the days of the 284 Heckmondwike - Ikea - Dewsbury. This was before, it moved from Heckmondwike to Cleckheaton. The 284 was paid for by Ikea.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Apr 12, 2019 9:52:51 GMT 1
Service 259 did not run via Drighington. It ran via Birkenshaw and Bierley Bar to Tong Cemetery and then via Dudley Hill to Bradford. In the old days in ran the way you describe, then it moved to run via Bierley Bar and Tong Cemetery via East Bierley, later it ran, from Birkenshaw, right into Town Street, Station Lane, Cross Lane, left into Westgate Hill Street, left into North View Road, across into South View Road, East Bierley, Totfshaw Lane, Tong Cemetery, to Bradford
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Post by solo on Apr 12, 2019 11:10:49 GMT 1
The stops in question are before any 259 service deviations. I think people are confused between Tong Lane End and Tong Cemetery.I may have worked out Metro's error. From Gildersome X Rds towards Drighington the stops are signed Bradford, Birstall and Heckmondwike. The last two being the recently withdrawn 209. I assume the person affixing the signage would be someone with a list and not necessarily au fait with the bus network. Just fixing those three destinations along the road and possibly when he got to Tong Lane End realised he had gone too far for the 209 service.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Apr 12, 2019 15:28:51 GMT 1
The stops in question are before any 259 service deviations. I think people are confused between Tong Lane End and Tong Cemetery.I may have worked out Metro's error. From Gildersome X Rds towards Drighington the stops are signed Bradford, Birstall and Heckmondwike. The last two being the recently withdrawn 209. I assume the person affixing the signage would be someone with a list and not necessarily au fait with the bus network. Just fixing those three destinations along the road and possibly when he got to Tong Lane End realised he had gone too far for the 209 service. Nah, I know where Tong Lane End is, near 6 Acres pub, which would tie in with 284, when that ran to Heckmondwike. It came up from Fieldhead, left onto Drig bypass, right at pub, and across Moor to Drig Crossroads, left at Crossroads, past golf club to 6 Acres, then across roundabout into Cross Lane
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Post by solo on Apr 12, 2019 15:51:01 GMT 1
I certainly don't remember that part of the route. However the conversation is drifting away from my original message which is Metro seem very lax about updating information. We are going on for a couple of months since the changes and all bus stop signage has still not been updated. Preferable to have no destinations on bus stops rather than the wrong ones. Does not encourage any potential new passengers to use public transport if information is out of date.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 12, 2019 18:18:42 GMT 1
I certainly don't remember that part of the route. However the conversation is drifting away from my original message which is Metro seem very lax about updating information. We are going on for a couple of months since the changes and all bus stop signage has still not been updated. Preferable to have no destinations on bus stops rather than the wrong ones. Does not encourage any potential new passengers to use public transport if information is out of date. The quality of information provided by Metro is going downhill fast. Their Easter information suggests the M4 is running a Friday service on Good Friday rather than the Sunday service that's actually running - less than a quarter of the normal Friday service. The 7 from Todmorden isn't running; nor is the 74A from Ilkley - no mention of this from Metro. I've reported many bus stops with incorrect information - they often take months to correct, even with reminders that they are still wrong - including at bus stations. There's many stops with incorrect destinations on them.
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