joseph
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Post by joseph on Jun 12, 2021 13:02:55 GMT 1
Personally I think it's a sensible decision to withdraw all Bradford trains, and not run the additional Huddersfield one too. It's only 20 minutes to Leeds from both stations where a half hourly service to London exists. Gives the train crew additional time to prep the train which I'm sure they'd welcome, and mitigates for any late running. Ok so LNER will lose out on a share of money from operating Leeds to Bradford/Huddersfield, but I bet that's not much and as I've said, it's a good way to keep train crew happy if they have more time to prep the train. Bradford has Grand Central as well, and for years have coped before London trains came along. It's not like Bradford/Huddersfield passengers will suddenly stop travelling to London is it, somehow the people from these tiny towns will find a way to get to Leeds or even Wakefield lol.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jun 12, 2021 18:07:48 GMT 1
What service is withdrawn? Leeds Northbound will be at 03 and 40 from Kings Cross through the day; instead of the current 2133 and 2330 from London there will be 2140, 2240 and 2340. Presumably the plan to make Bradford Forster Square to London 2 hourly has been quietly dropped - looks like the 2 hourly London to Leeds not via Wakefield is gone, too. The present 08:43 and 16:33 return. Daytime departures from London are also at :10 & :40 (stopping patterns reversed obviously). There was a proposal to run the London – Harrogate trains as a separate service not via Wakefield, with the present London – Harrogate trains diverted to Bradford, but these will continue as present. Present capacity at Bradford Forster Square is restricted, there is a plan to put in an extra platform for local services (similar idea to the Platform 0 at Leeds) to release a platform for LNER layovers.
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Post by deerfold on Jun 12, 2021 18:27:11 GMT 1
What service is withdrawn? The later Southbound and early Northbound go. They could come back in future if there is infrastructure improvements at Bradford. BradfordTraveller has edited their post to confirm they're taking about the Leeds to Edinburgh LNER service.
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jst
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Post by jst on Jun 13, 2021 19:24:02 GMT 1
Present capacity at Bradford Forster Square is restricted, there is a plan to put in an extra platform for local services (similar idea to the Platform 0 at Leeds) to release a platform for LNER layovers. The plan is to extend platform 3 to 8 car length with potential for a shunt siding similar to the new one installed at Harrogate.
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Post by deerfold on Jun 13, 2021 21:46:35 GMT 1
Personally I think it's a sensible decision to withdraw all Bradford trains, and not run the additional Huddersfield one too. It's only 20 minutes to Leeds from both stations where a half hourly service to London exists. Gives the train crew additional time to prep the train which I'm sure they'd welcome, and mitigates for any late running. Ok so LNER will lose out on a share of money from operating Leeds to Bradford/Huddersfield, but I bet that's not much and as I've said, it's a good way to keep train crew happy if they have more time to prep the train. Bradford has Grand Central as well, and for years have coped before London trains came along. It's not like Bradford/Huddersfield passengers will suddenly stop travelling to London is it, somehow the people from these tiny towns will find a way to get to Leeds or even Wakefield lol. They haven't withdrawn all Bradford trains. They've withdrawn 1 of the 2 - the one introduced in May 2020 (when we were still led to believe this was the first step in having a 2-hourly service). The Grand Central service is significantly slower, and whilst it's fine for London it doesn't stop anywhere between there and Doncaster.
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hstjohnny
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Post by hstjohnny on Sept 24, 2021 23:21:35 GMT 1
DECEMBER 2021 Timetable alterations (TBC) 05:50 Huddersfield via Leeds to London. Huddersfield a. 20:58 ( rear portion of the 18:03 London – Skipton train, dividing at Leeds d. 20:32). Timetable Updated and said trains taken out of System. Huddersfield - London Service not going ahead until May 2022 earliest
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Nov 27, 2021 3:56:17 GMT 1
DECEMBER 2021
London King’s Cross services from Leeds are expected to return fully to pre-Covid levels (i.e. generally twice per hour).
No changes are planned at this stage to the twice-daily Bradford Forster Square – Shipley –London service.
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Post by stevieinselby on Nov 27, 2021 11:41:58 GMT 1
DECEMBER 2021 London King’s Cross services from Leeds are expected to return fully to pre-Covid levels (i.e. generally twice per hour). No changes are planned at this stage to the twice-daily Bradford Forster Square – Shipley –London service. As the London—Leeds service is already running twice per hour throughout most of the day, this may not be the big news they are making it out to be!
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Post by deerfold on Nov 27, 2021 21:05:54 GMT 1
DECEMBER 2021 London King’s Cross services from Leeds are expected to return fully to pre-Covid levels (i.e. generally twice per hour). No changes are planned at this stage to the twice-daily Bradford Forster Square – Shipley –London service. As the London—Leeds service is already running twice per hour throughout most of the day, this may not be the big news they are making it out to be! I think it'll be an extra 4 or 5 trains a day from London to Leeds.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 26, 2021 23:16:49 GMT 1
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 26, 2022 1:50:21 GMT 1
LNER planning to resume normal operation from 12 February.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jun 14, 2022 13:20:17 GMT 1
LNER are to paint their remaining InterCity 225 sets in a throwback-1990s livery. The distinctive design features LNER’s trademark colours of red, oxblood, grey and white, along with their logo, bringing a new look to the trains while also giving a nod to their past. Work on the first locomotive and coaches to carry the new livery has been completed at Wabtec’s Doncaster works as part of a scheduled, essential maintenance programme. The train was designed for a top speed of 140 miles per hour, and broke the British railway speed record reaching 162 miles per hour on a test run in 1989. The fleet is comprised of Class 91 electric locomotives and Mark 4 coaching stock. LNER have 12 locos and eight sets of coaches on lease from Eversholt, some of which operate some services between Bradford Forster Square/Skipton and London King’s Cross, all of which will be branded in the new livery in the coming months. 1A26 ex BDQ on Sundays. 1A13 ex SKI Mondays to Fridays
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Post by burtonsa02 on Apr 13, 2024 16:22:38 GMT 1
I know this doesn't apply to us but I thought I'd mention it cause im interested what peoples opinions are. Apparently there are rumours that LNER services to Glasgow Central are getting withdrawn in December.
Also LNER are getting more trains which we know about that are being built by CAF.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 13, 2024 16:30:00 GMT 1
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 13, 2024 16:34:57 GMT 1
I know this doesn't apply to us but I thought I'd mention it cause im interested what peoples opinions are. Apparently there are rumours that LNER services to Glasgow Central are getting withdrawn in December. Also LNER are getting more trains which we know about that are being built by CAF. ... not a rumour. This is an official announcement: London North Eastern Railway (LNER) ran an 8-week consultation from 22 January 2024 to 18 March 2024 on proposals to remove its Glasgow and Stirling extensions. The responses to LNER’s consultation on proposals to remove Glasgow and Stirling extensions demonstrated the importance that rail has to many. However, after careful consideration of the consultation responses, LNER has decided that it will proceed with proposals to remove the Glasgow and Stirling extensions from the December 2024 timetable.
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