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Post by nic on Feb 14, 2018 21:20:34 GMT 1
And again taking it back to the airline industry - they seem to have crew sat about doing nothing. Ready to be deployed. I recall in my degree that i read one airline made £0.05p profit for every £1.00 revenue - whats the bus industry like for margins? Maybe a bit too simplistic in my explanation but say you could have 1 spare bus to cover 2 or 3 different routes (so if combined PVR of 70 and you have 1 spare bus to cover all 3).
I'm happy to be an amount for when it goes all right - £4 is worth it.
But its when it goes pete tong. Cancelled buses with no signs of any recovery or a old buses that haven't seen a cleaner in years, smells, rattles, sounds like it should be scrapped are by bug bears when i travel on the bus. I certainly don't see one iota of value for money.
Anyway - on the note of new street decks i LOVE the new livery. It's very good and i think it'll be very beneficial. If they are going back to local identities i can't wait to see it rolled out to Bradford and Calderdale.
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Post by sharksmith on Feb 14, 2018 22:05:57 GMT 1
If a route needs 20 buses during the day, but 22 at peak times, and those extra boards are just one round trip in the morning and afternoon. How many buses would you buy? Personally I’d say 22. Depends, if your a new company running just that one route you can't get away with that. That would mean 22 days out of 28 you have to drop extra boards because one of your buses is having its 28 day service. If anything breaks down or is involved in an accident that's another board gone. Bus waiting for a part and a third board is dropped. Your going to be up before the commissioners soon. With a major company though this is where your older buses can fill in. Think conventional wisdom would say 24 new buses for a PVR of 22. 20 of those branded and the other four unbranded to keep this route going with a chance to deploy spares on other routes if you are having a good spell of availability.
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Post by stevieinselby on Feb 14, 2018 22:56:16 GMT 1
Transdev & Go Ahead seem to be able to manage that in the main but previous history with the big three operators suggests this is something that needs attention to detail which just isn't quite there. Transdev, Trent Barton and Go-Ahead don't really have a base brand any more, which is something I find disappointing. It makes it hard to know when you're getting a bus who operates it, and if you have an operator-specific network ticket then that make things more difficult. I would much rather see operators have a common base design with highlights to denote the different brands – you can make it distinctive but still recognisably from the same stable.
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Post by 37057 on Feb 15, 2018 0:14:58 GMT 1
Hopefully one thing that will change is the number of single decks in the Leeds fleet. They seem to have too many, ideally the whole allocation except for those that go under a low bridge would be double deck. This would mean you wouldn’t get the situation of single decks tuning up on major routes at the worst possible time. This a problem on 1/6/28/97 also singles is a problem on 51/52 this should change once the streetdecks are In service
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 9:09:58 GMT 1
Hopefully one thing that will change is the number of single decks in the Leeds fleet. They seem to have too many, ideally the whole allocation except for those that go under a low bridge would be double deck. This would mean you wouldn’t get the situation of single decks tuning up on major routes at the worst possible time. As good as that would be,I think its unlikely to happen,as its only routes 5,9A and 91 that go under low bridges,but how many of the other current SD routes (11,15,19/A,47/8,54/5,64,65 and 70) warrent converting to DD operation? Possbily 19/A and 64 but the others I'm guessing will just have the newer batches of Eclipses running them with modifications done.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 15, 2018 18:22:43 GMT 1
Maybe just enough to run all those, so it’s always a case of doubles standing in for singles than the other way round.
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Post by ajw11239 on Feb 16, 2018 16:33:58 GMT 1
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Feb 16, 2018 18:11:47 GMT 1
Other than the number of singles arriving for Hunslet, also the number of singles still on main Bramley Routes. It’s become an occurrence for the streetlites and other singles to turn up on 4/16/49/50 routes on weekdays.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Feb 16, 2018 19:22:48 GMT 1
Other than the number of singles arriving for Hunslet, also the number of singles still on main Bramley Routes. It’s become an occurrence for the streetlites and other singles to turn up on 4/16/49/50 routes on weekdays. I am sure that Bramley will get all the 324's currently on loan to Hunslet back when the new buses enter service. I had a single decker for my first piece on 50s yesterday and wasn't too bad.
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Post by jdodger08 on Feb 16, 2018 19:53:41 GMT 1
The green is growing on me. When the 163/6 introduced the hybrids they were a similar bright green, so easy to spot when waiting for them lol
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Feb 18, 2018 15:42:03 GMT 1
Photo on flickr shows 35266 SL67 VWS all branded up. A diagonal block red colour has been added to the the front top and the branding on the side says 'Leedscity'. In my personal opinion it is one of the worst looking overall liveries/ branding I have ever seen, dreadful. The trading name Leeds City reminded me of when under Badgerline ownership they traded as Leeds CityLink.
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Post by sharksmith on Feb 19, 2018 20:25:40 GMT 1
Would you like to see one of our brand new vehicles tomorrow?! Head down to Victoria Gardens in Leeds where they will be on show from 11am - 1pm. t.co/JfOEfwRG33
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Post by leeds rider on Feb 21, 2018 9:45:05 GMT 1
Photo on flickr shows 35266 SL67 VWS all branded up. A diagonal block red colour has been added to the the front top and the branding on the side says 'Leedscity'. In my personal opinion it is one of the worst looking overall liveries/ branding I have ever seen, dreadful. The trading name Leeds City reminded me of when under Badgerline ownership they traded as Leeds CityLink. Also harks back to Leeds City Transport, of course - which was also a two-tone green livery, albeit somewhat different greens!
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Post by leeds rider on Feb 21, 2018 9:47:16 GMT 1
Just seen my first new StreetDeck out on service - slightly surprisingly on a 28 service, having previously been passed by several 1s and 6s still using the older buses...
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Post by northerner on Feb 21, 2018 22:58:21 GMT 1
It's very rare to find a Transdev brand bus from Keighley or Harrogate on anything but the route they are branded for. I've seen an unbranded bus in Harrogate get pulled off the 1's to go on the 70/71 to ensure that an incorrect brand doesn't appear on the incorrect route, it's taken very seriously. I was in the North East last weekend and all Go Ahead routes were correctly allocated with either the brand or the generic fleet livery and I find this is usually the case. Transdev take it too seriously though - I've lost count of the number of times a departure from Keighley has been delayed because the inward bus is late and the bus parked up spare is the wrong livery. Surely a Shuttle heading to Leeds on time is more important than waiting for the late Aireline to arrive
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Post by sharksmith on Feb 23, 2018 21:33:53 GMT 1
Quick check on which Streetdecks have entered service. My observations this week are 35261, 35263, 35266, 35268, 35269, 35273 & 35280. I'm sure there are more coming into service every day, have I missed any currently out? Seem to be mainly confined to the 6 at the moment although I have seen one on the 1 and one on the 28.
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Post by steve58 on Feb 25, 2018 21:15:38 GMT 1
Currently 12 unregistered Streetdecks stored at Bradford.
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Post by BG12 on Feb 26, 2018 0:55:37 GMT 1
So are the 34 that are expected on this batch, all going to be based at Hunslet? Hope so!
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Post by kevg on Feb 26, 2018 8:41:05 GMT 1
So are the 34 that are expected on this batch, all going to be based at Hunslet? Hope so! Yes
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Post by ricardoat4 on Feb 26, 2018 9:48:15 GMT 1
Currently 12 unregistered Streetdecks stored at Bradford. Cruel!
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Post by ajw11239 on Feb 26, 2018 13:11:28 GMT 1
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Post by steve440 on Feb 26, 2018 16:02:04 GMT 1
I would assume, though I may be wrong, that the ones with the green stripe would be for use as spares when the appropriate colour is not available, that way there should be no reason to use a wrong coloured vehicle on a particular route.
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Post by cs1 on Feb 26, 2018 17:36:10 GMT 1
I think the green stripe Streetdecks are Leeds spares, the Olympia coloured Streetdecks are for Sheffield.
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Post by sharksmith on Feb 26, 2018 20:39:47 GMT 1
My money is on branding for the 33's
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Post by 37057 on Feb 26, 2018 23:39:06 GMT 1
My money is on branding for the 33's Wont be enough to cover 1/6 and 33s?
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