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Post by SCH117X on Dec 2, 2017 17:59:18 GMT 1
Looks like Transdev have won the 965 battle in Otley
2 Jan timetable change - Connexions (VOSA PB1003659/60) 7 Jan route and timetable change - Transdev (VOSA PB0001748/123) 16 Jan Service cancelled - Connexions (VOSA PB1003659/60)
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2 Jan Route and timetable changes for NYCC service 4 (Scarborough) 7 Jan Timetable changes for First York services 1,6,9,66 7 Jan Route and timetable changes for First York services 66A,66X 8 Jan Route, timetable and stopping place changes for First York service 4 8 Jan Timetable changes for First York service 11 8 Jan Timetable changes for Ross Travel services 144,146,546 Wakefield-Pontefract 29 Jan Timetable changes for Arriva services 408,409,412 Pontefract-Doncaster
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Post by 29721 on Dec 2, 2017 22:41:05 GMT 1
Stagecoach 29 Barnsley to Hemsworth withdrawn from 28 Jan.
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Post by ajw11239 on Dec 3, 2017 16:59:31 GMT 1
Courtesy of iTravelYork, some details of the service changes for the York services: - Service 1: some additional trips in the early PM and one additional trip in AM
- Service 4: Revised timetable including removal of several AM trips
- Service 6: Revised timetable including removal of some PM trips
- Service 9 P&R: The early morning services will serve the shopping centre
- Service 11: one slightly retimed trip
- Service 66: fewer buses on most nights, more on Saturdays
- Some 66a buses in the weekend evening will continue through to the Rail Station.
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Post by SF07 on Dec 20, 2017 21:31:46 GMT 1
PB0000815/957 Registered (Short notice) FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Temple Green Park & Ride site to Leeds Boar Lane Service number: PR2 Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 08 Jan 2018 Variation to route and stopping places
PB0000815/886 Registered (Short notice) FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Clarence Road to Clarence Road via Leeds Railway Station Service number: 70 Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 08 Jan 2018 Variaiton to route and stopping places
PB0000815/756 Registered (Short notice) FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Wigton Moor/White Rose Shopping Centre to Morley/Leeds Corn Exchange Service number: 48 (48A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 08 Jan 2018 Variation to route, stopping places and timetable
PB0000815/44 Registered (Short notice) FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD Route: White Rose/Middleton to Roundhay Park/Chapel Allerton Hospital/ via Harehills, Hunslet, Corn Exchange Service number: 12 (13, 13A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 08 Jan 2018 Vary route and stopping places
PB0000815/45 Registered (Short notice) FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Middleton, Thorpe Lane to Roundhay Park/Harehills via White Rose, Gledhow, Middleton Service number: 2 (3, 3A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 08 Jan 2018 Variation to route and stopping places
PB0000815/506 Registered (Short notice) FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Moor Allerton to Tingley Mill via Meanwood, Leeds ,Morley Service number: 51 (52) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 08 Jan 2018 Variation to route and stopping places
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Post by northerner on Dec 20, 2017 21:42:10 GMT 1
Would guess the variation to route relates to the Leeds Bridge works which commence in January
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Post by leeds rider on Dec 21, 2017 0:14:33 GMT 1
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Dec 21, 2017 8:55:33 GMT 1
It's a shame they couldn't have done it when Vicar Lane was closed as it looks like another year when northbound Vicar Lane services can't serve the street, just like in 2015
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Post by SF07 on Dec 21, 2017 19:20:05 GMT 1
PC0001838/305 Registered (Short notice) ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT LTD Route: Waterfoot/Bacup to Todmorden via Sharneyford, Cloughfoot Service number: 465 (466) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 28 Jan 2018 Vary route, stopping places and timetable.
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Post by SF07 on Jan 4, 2018 21:16:22 GMT 1
Travel South Yorkshire have listed service changes for January 2018 on their website. Changes involving services in West Yorkshire are: - 28 (Stagecoach): Times changed
- 29 (Stagecoach): Withdrawn
- 36 (Watersons): Times changed
- 193 (Watersons): Times changed on weekdays
- X10 (Stagecoach): Times changed with the 1600 Monday-Saturday journey from Leeds re-timed to depart at 1610 and the 1710 Monday-Saturday journey from Barnsley re-timed to depart at 1715.
www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/futurechanges/
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 5, 2018 21:41:43 GMT 1
Quite ridiculous news item on Connexions web site that they are withdrawing their 965 because of other operator running 5 mins in font of them - obviously cannot read a timetable as its pretty obvious they mainly run in front of Transdev. Typical garbage from the Tockwith bus company.
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Post by davopazza on Jan 5, 2018 22:48:11 GMT 1
Quite ridiculous news item on Connexions web site that they are withdrawing their 965 because of other operator running 5 mins in font of them - obviously cannot read a timetable as its pretty obvious they mainly run in front of Transdev. Typical garbage from the Tockwith bus company. The news tem didn’t seem to be very mature to me.
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Post by stevieinselby on Jan 6, 2018 0:00:33 GMT 1
Quite ridiculous news item on Connexions web site that they are withdrawing their 965 because of other operator running 5 mins in font of them - obviously cannot read a timetable as its pretty obvious they mainly run in front of Transdev. Typical garbage from the Tockwith bus company. The news tem didn’t seem to be very mature to me. On the other hand, it's a bit rich when Transdev tout themselves as the local bus company for Otley, when two years ago they had never turned a wheel in the town and Connexions had been running local and interurban buses there for years...
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 6, 2018 18:19:48 GMT 1
Its a bit rich Connexions owning/ using the Harrogate Bus Company name; and just in case Transdev change back to the Harrogate & District Travel name Connexions own the Harrogate & District Bus Company name. If the Tockwith bus company want to get along with Transdev they ought to sell them those names to Transdev at cost price as a indication of good will.
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 6, 2018 21:24:27 GMT 1
Its a bit rich Connexions owning/ using the Harrogate Bus Company name; and just in case Transdev change back to the Harrogate & District Travel name Connexions own the Harrogate & District Bus Company name. If the Tockwith bus company want to get along with Transdev they ought to sell them those names to Transdev at cost price as a indication of good will. Good business sense if you ask me. Don't know why they'd want to get on with their biggest competitor though
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Post by northerner on Jan 7, 2018 0:44:40 GMT 1
Its a bit rich Connexions owning/ using the Harrogate Bus Company name; and just in case Transdev change back to the Harrogate & District Travel name Connexions own the Harrogate & District Bus Company name. If the Tockwith bus company want to get along with Transdev they ought to sell them those names to Transdev at cost price as a indication of good will. This has to be the most pathetic juvenile post I've seen on this forum. Its really boring reading post after post of how petty Connexions are when Transdev are no better
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 7, 2018 11:56:02 GMT 1
Good business sense if you ask me. Don't know why they'd want to get on with their biggest competitor though This has to be the most pathetic juvenile post I've seen on this forum. Its really boring reading post after post of how petty Connexions are when Transdev are no better Connexions keep on bleating about wanting joint ticketing on the Harrogate - Wetherby route but that Transdev refuse to have anything to do with it; hardly surprising given that Connexions take every opportunity to attack Transdev on social media and their web site. They only bought the Bus Company names to spite Transdev after Transdev announced the renamings of the Blackburn/Burnley/Harrogate/Keighley operations and frankly their buses look tacky with it splattered on them in cheap blue vinyls.
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Post by mk2mcw on Jan 7, 2018 16:15:21 GMT 1
Good business sense if you ask me. Don't know why they'd want to get on with their biggest competitor though This has to be the most pathetic juvenile post I've seen on this forum. Its really boring reading post after post of how petty Connexions are when Transdev are no better Connexions keep on bleating about wanting joint ticketing on the Harrogate - Wetherby route but that Transdev refuse to have anything to do with it; hardly surprising given that Connexions take every opportunity to attack Transdev on social media and their web site. They only bought the Bus Company names to spite Transdev after Transdev announced the renamings of the Blackburn/Burnley/Harrogate/Keighley operations and frankly their buses look tacky with it splattered on them in cheap blue vinyls. Who's this fight between? connexions and transdev or you two?? 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by deerfold on Jan 8, 2018 13:33:16 GMT 1
Connexions have not bought any names.
The Harrogate Bus Company is legally "Harrogate & District Travel Limited" (formed 1988) - there is nothing to stop them going back to using this name.
Connexions have started a company called "Harrogate and District Travel Limited". They've also registered "Theharrogatebuscompany Limited", "Harrogate Bus Company Limited", "Connexions Buses Limited" and "Harrogate Independent Travel Limited. These were all formed 7-9 April 2016 except for Theharrogatebuscompany which was registered 6 days after Transdev applied for a registered trademark with that name in June 2016.
They do of course trade through "Harrogate Coach Travel Limited".
Is it mature to form 3 companies with names almost identical to your rival's legal or trading names (and another with the same name as a company they took over 28 years ago)?
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Post by deerfold on Jan 8, 2018 13:35:39 GMT 1
Good business sense if you ask me. Don't know why they'd want to get on with their biggest competitor though The biggest competitor for any bus company is the private car. In many areas bus companies get on very well. Why would they want to foster animosity with a company they'll come into contact with regularly?
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 8, 2018 21:44:02 GMT 1
Good business sense if you ask me. Don't know why they'd want to get on with their biggest competitor though The biggest competitor for any bus company is the private car. In many areas bus companies get on very well. Why would they want to foster animosity with a company they'll come into contact with regularly? In other areas there are such things as competition. Buy something in demand i.e company name. Sell it for a profit. Good business sense.
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 8, 2018 22:13:10 GMT 1
The biggest competitor for any bus company is the private car. In many areas bus companies get on very well. Why would they want to foster animosity with a company they'll come into contact with regularly? In other areas there are such things as competition. Buy something in demand i.e company name. Sell it for a profit. Good business sense. except that Transdev Blazefield are pretty unlikely to offer to pay Connexions anything for them beyond the 99p upwards they paid for each if they wanted them. Sticking the Harrogate name on Connexions vehicle's can at the worst confuse people as the Harrogate Bus Company to everyone in Harrogate town including the local press and the Council is Transdev Blazefield and are openly referenced as such. If you follow Connexions logic that they are the Harrogate Bus Company because they are based in Harrogate District,then Transdev Keighley should be the Bradford Bus Company.
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Post by deerfold on Jan 9, 2018 11:25:15 GMT 1
The biggest competitor for any bus company is the private car. In many areas bus companies get on very well. Why would they want to foster animosity with a company they'll come into contact with regularly? In other areas there are such things as competition. Buy something in demand i.e company name. Sell it for a profit. Good business sense. They haven't bought anything. They've created a company. Why would anyone buy it?
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 9, 2018 19:44:02 GMT 1
In other areas there are such things as competition. Buy something in demand i.e company name. Sell it for a profit. Good business sense. They haven't bought anything. They've created a company. Why would anyone buy it? They've paid for company formation. Was keeping things simple.
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 9, 2018 19:47:25 GMT 1
In other areas there are such things as competition. Buy something in demand i.e company name. Sell it for a profit. Good business sense. except that Transdev Blazefield are pretty unlikely to offer to pay Connexions anything for them beyond the 99p upwards they paid for each if they wanted them. Sticking the Harrogate name on Connexions vehicle's can at the worst confuse people as the Harrogate Bus Company to everyone in Harrogate town including the local press and the Council is Transdev Blazefield and are openly referenced as such. If you follow Connexions logic that they are the Harrogate Bus Company because they are based in Harrogate District,then Transdev Keighley should be the Bradford Bus Company. So what difference does it make if they don't want it? Surely they're the French bus company? Whilst I don't agree with the lack of professionalism from Connexions at times, Trandev havent played fairly either. I don't think Connexions deserve the slagging off they get from you & the sun definitately doesn't shine out of Transdev's exhaust like you make out.
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Post by deerfold on Jan 9, 2018 20:19:43 GMT 1
They haven't bought anything. They've created a company. Why would anyone buy it? They've paid for company formation. Was keeping things simple. OK, so each of them will have cost £40 to set up. And then a form to fill out each year to confirm they're not trading. I repeat, why would anyone buy it? What business sense is there in doing it?
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