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Post by bb1000 on Oct 17, 2017 17:30:22 GMT 1
Seems like Transdev is taking on the old Utopia 42 service from 31st October. York via Cawood to Selby and will be extended to Drax at the Selby end (To fit in with the no 8 service they currently run) Will be interesting to see what buses they use although it's now 10-tonne limit Timetables now on-line www.northyorkstravel.info/timetable/42oct17.pdf |
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Post by passenger859 on Oct 17, 2017 21:42:26 GMT 1
Seems like Transdev is taking on the old Utopia 42 service from 31st October. York via Cawood to Selby and will be extended to Drax at the Selby end (To fit in with the no 8 service they currently run) Will be interesting to see what buses they use although it's now 10-tonne limit Timetables now on-line www.northyorkstravel.info/timetable/42oct17.pdfIt'll be good to see a service 42 again. Extension to Drax great too, albeit renumbering of 8. Does anyone know if £9.50 DayTripper will be valid on this service? Cheers. The three ZAP Cities will again all have a service 42. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Oct 17, 2017 22:26:45 GMT 1
On the 8, they are usually using a black baby Dart, but a B10BLE has been used as well. Any Darts or Solos will be fine with the weight limit - not sure about the Versas or MAN E200s, they could be cutting it fine if fully loaded.
I expect in the short term it will be a motley assortment of old Darts in various different liveries, but hopefully after a bit of time running the route they will be keen to invest in it. I'm a little surprised they aren't branding this as part of Little Explorers, it seems to be a good fit!
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Post by SCH117X on Oct 20, 2017 13:07:09 GMT 1
The 21 was said to part of the Little Explorers yet the on line timetable etc makes no reference to such. Suspect taking the 42 on has changed plans as there is no vehicle restriction on the 21 and therefore at a guess any plans to base Darts at Starbeck have been cancelled. According to Tuesdays WYIS fleetlist black Dart 705 and Starship Dart 715 are currently surplus.
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Post by stevieinselby on Oct 20, 2017 13:20:29 GMT 1
Just checked the route map and they will no longer be running round the Charles Street loop – presumably because Arriva are already running the 5 that way – but disappointing that for people travelling to York they are now going to have to walk up to half a mile further (bearing in mind the estate includes a lot of elderly folk), when there is ample scope in the timetable to accommodate the extra 5 minutes needed for it – at least off-peak, maybe it's fair to say that commuters would be more likely to walk down to Millgate. I can't see that the time saved is going to attract a whole lot more custom for passengers travelling to Selby, and could lose custom from people who won't walk that far.
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Post by passenger859 on Oct 20, 2017 18:46:29 GMT 1
I'll certainly be using it occasionally on days when I'm double zapping between Manchester and York.
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Post by stevieinselby on Oct 31, 2017 12:47:19 GMT 1
The 42 is go! Loadings seem pretty good for only the second day of the new service and from eavesdropping it seems like the villagers are very pleased to have a regular service again. Today being run by two MPDs as expected - Starship 715 (YJ04LXY) and Black 703 (YG52GDJ).
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 6, 2017 18:42:25 GMT 1
They are showing this as part of the Little Explorer network rather than the 21 Knaresborough-Boroughbridge which was originally stated to be such, so presumably if they had not won this service the Darts would have been used on the 21.
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Post by passenger859 on Nov 6, 2017 19:04:50 GMT 1
They are showing this as part of the Little Explorer network rather than the 21 Knaresborough-Boroughbridge which was originally stated to be such, so presumably if they had not won this service the Darts would have been used on the 21. 42 certainly fits the LE brand. It would be good if Transdev could grow it to hourly in time. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Nov 7, 2017 0:09:51 GMT 1
They are showing this as part of the Little Explorer network rather than the 21 Knaresborough-Boroughbridge which was originally stated to be such, so presumably if they had not won this service the Darts would have been used on the 21. Unless any have been through the paint shop recently, they have 3 buses branded as Little Explorers, and the 22/23 needs 3 buses. They have a variety of other MPDs knocking around in a hotchpotch of different liveries - one has just been repainted for the 965, but I'm sure there are plenty to run the 21 and 42 - the question is whether they will get repainted. It fits better having the 42 branded as Little Explorers because at least then all the yellow perils are running from the same depot. 42 certainly fits the LE brand. It would be good if Transdev could grow it to hourly in time. The problem with increasing it back to hourly is that it is now interworked with the Drax service, and I can't see that ever justifying an hourly service. So unless they were to do something canny that allowed them to separate the two services again, I'm not sure how they would do it without having buses sitting idle in Selby for an hour at a time, several times a day. But yes, it would definitely be something to aim for, because those MPDs are going to get VERY cosy as the service reestablishes itself and especially in the summer when the tourist traffic from Naburn Lock picks up again. |
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 7, 2017 18:48:45 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on Nov 7, 2017 21:23:01 GMT 1
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 8, 2017 19:14:46 GMT 1
They need to tidy up the index page yorkbus.co.uk/times as the original Little Explorers are listed as such with no route number but the 42 is clearly numbered. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 18, 2017 22:07:40 GMT 1
Didn't Arriva used to run a route 42 from Selby to York, in addition to route 415?
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Post by stevieinselby on Nov 18, 2017 23:18:17 GMT 1
Didn't Arriva used to run a route 42 from Selby to York, in addition to route 415? Yes - from some time around 2000 up until September 2015, Arriva ran the 42 between York, Cawood and Selby, usually at an hourly frequency but there were times when it was slightly less frequent/regular. In summer 2015, NYCC announced that Cawood bridge was in a flakier state than they had thought, and the 7.5t weight limit for goods vehicles would be extended to ALL vehicles. Arriva didn't have any buses that would come in at under 7.5t mgw, so they abandoned the route, and Utopia (who had set up a service between York, Cawood, Sherburn and Pontefract a few years earlier) took it over as they had some suitable vehicles and were willing to acquire more. All was fine and dandy until the end of August when the owners decided to empty the till into their back pockets and sod off to somewhere hot and sunny, closing the company down at 8pm that evening with immediate effect. Even though the weight limit was due to be relaxed to 10t mgw (and 7.5t for goods vehicles) only a week later, Arriva showed no interest whatsoever in reinstating a service. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 19, 2017 20:57:38 GMT 1
Didn't Arriva used to run a route 42 from Selby to York, in addition to route 415? Yes - from some time around 2000 up until September 2015, Arriva ran the 42 between York, Cawood and Selby, usually at an hourly frequency but there were times when it was slightly less frequent/regular. In summer 2015, NYCC announced that Cawood bridge was in a flakier state than they had thought, and the 7.5t weight limit for goods vehicles would be extended to ALL vehicles. Arriva didn't have any buses that would come in at under 7.5t mgw, so they abandoned the route, and Utopia (who had set up a service between York, Cawood, Sherburn and Pontefract a few years earlier) took it over as they had some suitable vehicles and were willing to acquire more. All was fine and dandy until the end of August when the owners decided to empty the till into their back pockets and sod off to somewhere hot and sunny, closing the company down at 8pm that evening with immediate effect. Even though the weight limit was due to be relaxed to 10t mgw (and 7.5t for goods vehicles) only a week later, Arriva showed no interest whatsoever in reinstating a service. Thank you for explaining the reasons for the changes of operator here. |
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