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Post by boeing737229adv on Apr 5, 2017 10:20:57 GMT 1
Has anyone else noticed that on some of the recent deliveries, the Hanover & Mobitec screens have been programmed with varying text styles? The Tiger Blue buses (and anything based at Honley really, with Hanover screens) have started having the side destinations 'the wrong way round' (full scrolling destination FIRST, then the number AFTER). The only 2 that have had them changed back to the 'right way round' (number first, then just the final destination after) are KUI 9268 (614) & KIG 7306 (626) and I notice that KIG 7305 (625) has recently had its (recently replaced) Hanover screens reprogrammed with the side desti in this daft style! Are they doing them all into this style then gradually changing it back, or what?
If I were them, I'd redo all the Hanover screens in the what I call 'flipdot-mimicking style' (what the old Centrebus & some Stagecoach Waterloo buses had, aswell as the Tiger buses in Leeds I notice have started having it) and the Mobitec screens in the style TLC used to use [and what Solo 233, some Centros & a couple of Tempos still have]
Is it just Tiger not deciding on a consistent style to use, or bcoz different people are programming the screens, they're all in different styles?
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Post by britannia94 on Apr 5, 2017 10:59:40 GMT 1
At least the majority work. If you take a ride on one of the optare buses for the 757 airport there's a couple that don't seem to have working destination screens, instead all the have is a A4 white piece of paper stuck in the corner of windscreen with the route number. Another fine example of the state of Yorkshire tiger. And just to clarify you they have been like this for a few months now at least.
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Post by boeing737229adv on Apr 5, 2017 11:15:38 GMT 1
The 757 ones NEED NEED NEED sorting out! Really doesn't create a good first impression, especially on airport routes
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Post by gooderson1 on Apr 5, 2017 17:33:17 GMT 1
What is the concern about LED displays. What is needed is a decent fleet that looks good.
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Post by toommmm on Apr 5, 2017 21:15:18 GMT 1
What is the concern about LED displays. What is needed is a decent fleet that looks good. Because it says where the bus is going, and what number. If someone is partially sighted and expects the number to be on the left of the front display, and it isn't, what are they to do? You'd probably be the first to complain on a bus if an old dear asked 'what number is this please' or something along those lines. Someone like me, even though I'm only 17, has really rubbish eyesight so it's nice to have continuity. Someone like you, or even other forum members, who travel to a different county to experience the buses. We sure don't want to stick out like a sore thumb, so the destination working is imperative. Or in this case the 757. Now I'm from South Yorkshire so granted I can't comment on the state of their LED boards, but if I was in Spain and wanting to get a bus from the airport, I'd want it to say where it was going, so it's the exact same principle for Leeds Bradford. I'm not disregarding fleet maintenance. Luckily in South Yorkshire Tiger's solos are beautiful buses. Again, I can't comment on YT in WY but the fleet is obviously the backbone of a bus company. A bus company without buses wouldn't be much use. Take First South Yorkshire for example... |
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Post by gooderson1 on Apr 6, 2017 7:44:02 GMT 1
There does appear to be a number of Tiger buses where the led display does not work or the lettering has faded or shows rubbish. The only reason I can think for the solos in S Yorkshire being beautiful is possibly due to the fact that the company had time to get them ready between purchase and entry into service.
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Post by boeing737229adv on Apr 6, 2017 20:07:40 GMT 1
There does appear to be a number of Tiger buses where the led display does not work or the lettering has faded or shows rubbish. The only reason I can think for the solos in S Yorkshire being beautiful is possibly due to the fact that the company had time to get them ready between purchase and entry into service. Solo MW52 PZE (354) is the worst I've seen for dim screens,and one of the Dart/MCVs just has 'hieroglyphics' scrolling across on the bottom line, and the other day I noticed the side screen on a Centro just showing hieroglyphics too! YE06 HRX (618) just has a piece of paper stuck inside the windscreen, its LED screen (Mobitec) hasn't worked for weeks now! Too many Tiger buses in Hudds seem to have non-working side & rear screens too, they need to sort this out pronto pronto! |
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Post by boeing737229adv on Apr 6, 2017 20:19:00 GMT 1
What is the concern about LED displays. What is needed is a decent fleet that looks good. Because it says where the bus is going, and what number. If someone is partially sighted and expects the number to be on the left of the front display, and it isn't, what are they to do? You'd probably be the first to complain on a bus if an old dear asked 'what number is this please' or something along those lines. Someone like me, even though I'm only 17, has really rubbish eyesight so it's nice to have continuity. Someone like you, or even other forum members, who travel to a different county to experience the buses. We sure don't want to stick out like a sore thumb, so the destination working is imperative. Or in this case the 757. Now I'm from South Yorkshire so granted I can't comment on the state of their LED boards, but if I was in Spain and wanting to get a bus from the airport, I'd want it to say where it was going, so it's the exact same principle for Leeds Bradford. I'm not disregarding fleet maintenance. Luckily in South Yorkshire Tiger's solos are beautiful buses. Again, I can't comment on YT in WY but the fleet is obviously the backbone of a bus company. A bus company without buses wouldn't be much use. Take First South Yorkshire for example... It's on the side screens that they've started redoing them so the numbers & text are the wrong way round, it's meant to be numbers first, then just the final destination (perhaps they should also do the Via points flashing up one after the other like TLC & First do) for instance: 301 Golcar 301 Circular 301 via Paddock 301 via Milnsbridge or: 324 Meltham 324 Broadlands |
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Post by toommmm on Apr 7, 2017 21:49:23 GMT 1
Because it says where the bus is going, and what number. If someone is partially sighted and expects the number to be on the left of the front display, and it isn't, what are they to do? You'd probably be the first to complain on a bus if an old dear asked 'what number is this please' or something along those lines. Someone like me, even though I'm only 17, has really rubbish eyesight so it's nice to have continuity. Someone like you, or even other forum members, who travel to a different county to experience the buses. We sure don't want to stick out like a sore thumb, so the destination working is imperative. Or in this case the 757. Now I'm from South Yorkshire so granted I can't comment on the state of their LED boards, but if I was in Spain and wanting to get a bus from the airport, I'd want it to say where it was going, so it's the exact same principle for Leeds Bradford. I'm not disregarding fleet maintenance. Luckily in South Yorkshire Tiger's solos are beautiful buses. Again, I can't comment on YT in WY but the fleet is obviously the backbone of a bus company. A bus company without buses wouldn't be much use. Take First South Yorkshire for example... It's on the side screens that they've started redoing them so the numbers & text are the wrong way round, it's meant to be numbers first, then just the final destination (perhaps they should also do the Via points flashing up one after the other like TLC & First do) for instance: 301 Golcar 301 Circular 301 via Paddock 301 via Milnsbridge or: 324 Meltham 324 Broadlands Thank you for that. Now I know how destination LEDs work. I was completely oblivious to what they were before. |
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Post by boeing737229adv on Jun 12, 2017 11:35:33 GMT 1
I notice that Arriva have been redoing their Hanover LED screens in a different, better-looking text style (the one that some First buses use), so I wonder, rather than Tiger doing them all in different styles, wouldn't it make more sense to do them in the new Arriva style, them being part of the Arriva group and that?
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Post by boeing737229adv on Jun 27, 2017 10:45:57 GMT 1
The other day I was somewhat horrified to notice that KIG 7306 (626) has had its Hanovers re-programmed into the rubbish, wrong-way-round style AGAIN! ~ they were like that for a few weeks then back to the proper style, and now, it's back to the rubbish style!
Possibly the only logic I can see behind it is that when they were in the 'proper style', routes like the 319 still had the old via points, & now that the 319 has been cut back to only run into Hudds town centre maybe that's why?
So I notice, the new Flying Tiger Enviros have the screens programmed in the new Arriva style, so fingers crossed that they follow suit with the rest
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Post by boeing737229adv on Jul 21, 2017 21:10:04 GMT 1
Some of the Mobitec-equipped solos have had the front displays redone in a somewhat ridiculous fashion, just found this on flickr, taken today www.flickr.com/photos/32938317@N00/35230111954/in/dateposted/ It'd look FINE if it said just 'Halifax' but this just looks far too squashed-on! But on the plus side, at least the side display is the right way round! |
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Post by boeing737229adv on Nov 1, 2017 20:13:38 GMT 1
I notice that in recent months they've made some of the displays just single-line, however only on the Hanovers do longer placenames like Meltham Broadlands or Balmoral Ave, scroll across ~ it looks pretty rubbish! On the Mobitecs however, they have Meltham Broadlands on 2 lines, like perhaps the Hanovers should!
Do the Hanovers in the style Arriva have done them on their brand new Enviro 400MMCs I'd say [coz Tiger are an offshoot of Arriva, it'd make sense to to the LED displays the same style so as to have SOME consistency at least]
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Post by spiritofjaguar on Nov 2, 2017 16:23:41 GMT 1
What is the concern about LED displays. What is needed is a decent fleet that looks good. I feel the need to bring this up again, as long as it says the service number and a destination passengers won't really care. Some will even still ask where the bus is going or via or what number service it is even when its on big orange/white writing on the front of the bus! Someone needs to change the record. |
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Post by boeing737229adv on Nov 2, 2017 19:00:27 GMT 1
True true true
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Post by boeing737229adv on Mar 18, 2018 13:24:09 GMT 1
Glad to see they're going a step back in the right direction with the Hanovers (the lower text line has returned to being in thin text that doesn't scroll unnecessarily) but the problem with some placenames being misspelt and/or incorrectly non-capitalised is still there (with the 80 series routes at Waterloo its particularly noticable!)
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Post by mutty on Mar 23, 2018 22:50:40 GMT 1
Tonight’s 20:15 262 out of mirfield was displaying “ 262 Brighouse connection to Elland “
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 24, 2018 0:02:57 GMT 1
As mentioned in the reprints thread, 854 is back in new livery.
As it’s been away it’s missed having the destinations reprogrammed for the new routes, so I noticed it today on the 553 and 514
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