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Post by scania60065 on Jan 5, 2018 9:44:00 GMT 1
Could be something very minor like one round trip run by a double deck, or one extra round trip in the peaks run by a Versa. Doesn't have to be wholesale replacement with brand new double decks. I think this is most likely the case with Aireline, making more use of the Geminis especially during the morning peak 401 is also due at keighley with possibly 422-424
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Post by jep2510 on Jan 5, 2018 10:59:59 GMT 1
FJ58LSX in Harrogate base colours unbranded just seen passing through Starbeck on a low loader
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 14, 2018 12:00:02 GMT 1
FJ58LSX in Harrogate base colours unbranded just seen passing through Starbeck on a low loader WYIS are reporting both that one, 1861, and 1862 (FJ58 LSX) now being at Starbeck, not route branded. There are now therefore 4 non route branded B7RLEs at Starbeck as 1800 was debranded from Route 1 late last year (presumably as a result of Boroughbridge extension of the 1A being axed). The other non route branded B7RLE is 1853. There should be enough but B10BLEs still turn up frequently on Route 1 workings and the 24 although there has been an increasing presence of B7RLEs on the latter, albeit often ones route branded for Route 1 or the 70/71. Will be interesting to see what happens when the Electrics arrive as Versas are now typically used on the 21 replacement for the Boroughbridge extension of the 1A, will they all go off lease? Impression I get is some, if not all, will as one as a very dim front display which normally would have been fixed months ago and at least one is failing to transmit a GPS signal, again something that normally would have been fixed months ago.
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Post by northerner on Jan 14, 2018 19:31:09 GMT 1
at least one is failing to transmit a GPS signal, again something that normally would have been fixed months ago. I'm not sure anything can be read in to that, as numerous vehicles at Keighley don't show RTI including at least 2 Solos which arrived in September
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Post by chas on Jan 14, 2018 23:13:06 GMT 1
1861 was on the 70 at the end of last week. On Friday, 1800 & 1854 were on the 24.
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 31, 2018 18:10:38 GMT 1
WYIS are listing Harrogate B10BLE 1091 as being at Malton so that presumably is working the 194, meanwhile the three at York are listed as having been their since Jan 2017!!!!! York has also reacquired Versas 202 and 204 (in Lanc Utd Blue/Yellow)
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Post by neukit on Jan 31, 2018 20:13:45 GMT 1
WYIS are listing Harrogate B10BLE 1091 as being at Malton so that presumably is working the 194, meanwhile the three at York are listed as having been their since Jan 2017!!!!! York has also reacquired Versas 202 and 206 (in Lanc Utd Blue/Yellow) It's 202 and 204 that have transferred to York, joining 203 and 206 which have been at York for some time.
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 31, 2018 22:06:50 GMT 1
WYIS are listing Harrogate B10BLE 1091 as being at Malton so that presumably is working the 194, meanwhile the three at York are listed as having been their since Jan 2017!!!!! York has also reacquired Versas 202 and 206 (in Lanc Utd Blue/Yellow) It's 202 and 204 that have transferred to York, joining 203 and 206 which have been at York for some time. Apologies - long day work . Have corrected my posting.
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Post by chas on Feb 8, 2018 9:26:22 GMT 1
Reported that Transdev are to withdraw from the 70 route in favour of HCT.
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Post by ricardoat4 on Feb 8, 2018 10:02:15 GMT 1
Nah. They've just re-badged and up spec'd
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 8, 2018 18:23:40 GMT 1
And what on earth does it have to do with "fleet changes" - maybe we need a new main thread of Chas's barking rumours.
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Post by chas on Feb 8, 2018 22:05:48 GMT 1
Sorry but newbies don’t create threads. NYCC did tender exercise won by HCT. Transdev can reclaim but have said they will not. Change due April 18th.
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 8, 2018 23:11:28 GMT 1
So it should be in an April Service Changes thread. What of Sunday services which are funded by Rudding Park - HCT won't be working those. Presumably having complained that Transdev were overbussing as a result of running the 70 and 2 71s HCT will be withdrawing a X70....
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Post by stevieinselby on Feb 20, 2018 18:04:06 GMT 1
With eight 04-reg MPDs remaining in Keighley, will these minibuses replace all of the ones that are left, including the ones used on Wharfedale Links?
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Post by A1YBG on Feb 20, 2018 18:36:33 GMT 1
With eight 04-reg MPDs remaining in Keighley, will these minibuses replace all of the ones that are left, including the ones used on Wharfedale Links? Turns out TLC have lost most of not all tge tenders from May. Bradford tenders going to Yorkshire Tiger and keighley going to Transdev. Seems these minibuses are for them
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 20, 2018 19:14:05 GMT 1
I’ve never been a big fan of TLC running the Keighley tenders, as the Transdev network would be more comprehensive if they ran everything. In Bradford though, it’s obvious First don’t want the services so whoever runs them it wouldn’t be the network operator.
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 21, 2018 19:57:24 GMT 1
WYIS report Lancs Utd Versa 201 has also gone to York along with a further Harrogate B10BLE, 1091 which leaves three non School B10BLEs at Starbeck; 306, 308 and 1087 - two of which at least were on Route 1 duties today implying that there are still not enough B7RLEs for the 1,24 and 70/71. Withdrawn Keighley (and originally Lancs Utd) B10BLEs 1078-1082 are listed as to be repainted for York along with three others which are as yet to be identified others. Withdrawn B7RLEs 1840-1842 which have been listed for ages as going off lease are now to be reallocated back to Blackburn.
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 24, 2018 19:35:23 GMT 1
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 2, 2018 12:30:35 GMT 1
With the renumbering of the Rosso fleet the combined current fleet will be (ignoring support and training vehicles but including withdrawn) “Olympian” : 11/2/45, 162/3, 986, 2002/4/5/7 BMC220 : 101-129 Solo : 139-160 Versas : 201-216, 220-277 B10BLEs : 305-309, 530/31/40-44/57/61-63/66/7/9/73/4, 1001-1004/12-14/16/ 21/24/28-30/39/41-44/46-49/51-54/57-59/61/64/65/68/71/72/76-89/91-99, 1100-05/29 B7TL/ B9TL Gemini : 401-404/21-29/38-40, 2750-2764/66-96, 3601-3614 B7RLE : 450-455, 1700-1735, 1800-1814/23/25/27/28/30/31/34/37-50/53-78 B10 Strider : 509 Streetlight : 601-617 Dart : 665, 703-725 Enviro 200 : 1107, 1108 Scania Solar : 1600-1616 Trident : 2000, 2010-2015 President/Myllenium : 2701-2709, 2711-2746 B5TL Gemini : 3615-3641 Trident open top : 4009-4012, 4016, 4018-4021, 4025 Electric solos : EB01 or 998, EB02
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 6, 2018 19:21:07 GMT 1
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Post by ajw11239 on Mar 13, 2018 17:29:19 GMT 1
Don't know if anyone else has noticed this but if you look at the Coastliner Twitter feed, they've had a lot of services cancelled due to "technical issues" recently:
- today four full journeys end-to-end cancelled - 3rd March three journeys end-to-end cancelled - 2nd March two journeys end-to-end cancelled
And there's loads more due to technical issues. They were sent the pride of the north B7 from York a couple of weeks ago, meaning two spares, and now they have one of the Vamooz B7s. Is their fleet stretched at the moment? They managed last summer (with an increased PVR for extra services) with the current fleet but they seem to be having real shortages currently.
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Post by stevieinselby on Mar 13, 2018 22:06:06 GMT 1
Don't know if anyone else has noticed this but if you look at the Coastliner Twitter feed, they've had a lot of services cancelled due to "technical issues" recently: - today four full journeys end-to-end cancelled - 3rd March three journeys end-to-end cancelled - 2nd March two journeys end-to-end cancelled And there's loads more due to technical issues. They were sent the pride of the north B7 from York a couple of weeks ago, meaning two spares, and now they have one of the Vamooz B7s. Is their fleet stretched at the moment? They managed last summer (with an increased PVR for extra services) with the current fleet but they seem to be having real shortages currently. It's been a common theme in York/Malton and Keighley for some months – I posted something similar back in January. And while it seems to be mostly the ageing Darts that are falling over the most, there have been quite a few Coastliner journeys cancelled, including some of the Bridlington runs. Now, it's bad enough if an 840/843 can't run between Leeds and Malton when there will be another bus along in half an hour or so, or on some of the Wharfedale Links routes where a handful of people might be left with an hour's wait ... but when it's a route that only runs three times a day, they really need to be doing absolutely everything they can to make sure that it runs, even if that means pulling a bus off the Leeds–Malton section to run it. Part of the problem seems to be route availability. The 42 can only use the MPDs. The 22/23, 29, 31X and 181 have to use single-deckers. In the last 6 months, they have taken on routes requiring 9 vehicles from the collapse of Utopia and Stephensons, and there's another one joining that figure when they take over the 72 from POTD next month (any inside info on what they are using for that? I'm guessing it will be another one for the tired Darts). And they are trying to cover all of those routes from within their existing fleet – principally, the section of the fleet that is approaching or past retirement age – so it probably shouldn't be a surprise that they are struggling.
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Post by SCH117X on Mar 13, 2018 23:33:08 GMT 1
Part of the problem seems to be route availability. The 42 can only use the MPDs. The 22/23, 29, 31X and 181 have to use single-deckers. In the last 6 months, they have taken on routes requiring 9 vehicles from the collapse of Utopia and Stephensons, and there's another one joining that figure when they take over the 72 from POTD next month (any inside info on what they are using for that? I'm guessing it will be another one for the tired Darts). And they are trying to cover all of those routes from within their existing fleet – principally, the section of the fleet that is approaching or past retirement age – so it probably shouldn't be a surprise that they are struggling. Does the 72 need single deckers - Geminis go to Grassington on Summer Sundays and Bank Holidays The Darts date from 2002 and 2004; if they are approaching or past retirement age so are a lot of other vehicles, and those of other operators. If they keep the Versas that will be displaced at Harrogate by the Electrics then a reshuffle of vehicles will no doubt occur and maybe some Darts will get a makeover/rebuild as per the B7RLEs. Oddly given the need at York the other 2002 Dart, 705, has finally moved from Keighley according to WYIS but has gone to Burnley.
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Post by Burnside on Mar 14, 2018 0:13:20 GMT 1
Don't think the 72 needs Darts (or other single decks) but as POTD always used Solo's (and Metroriders before them), is the demand there for double deckers?
Get away with it on a Sunday where it's linked to the X43, but the rest of the week, if double decks aren't needed, it'd be more economical to use a smaller bus.
That said, they said Double decks weren't needed on the 60, and look how well that's gone...
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Post by stevieinselby on Mar 14, 2018 8:13:28 GMT 1
Does the 72 need single deckers - Geminis go to Grassington on Summer Sundays and Bank Holidays The Darts date from 2002 and 2004; if they are approaching or past retirement age so are a lot of other vehicles, and those of other operators. If they keep the Versas that will be displaced at Harrogate by the Electrics then a reshuffle of vehicles will no doubt occur and maybe some Darts will get a makeover/rebuild as per the B7RLEs. Oddly given the need at York the other 2002 Dart, 705, has finally moved from Keighley according to WYIS but has gone to Burnley. The Sunday X43 follows the main road, whereas the 72 turns off into Hetton and Linton. Both villages have bridges that I think are too low for a double decker (although I haven't checked), and tight turns that could be very difficult in a full size saloon.
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