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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 9, 2017 23:02:04 GMT 1
The K10 seems to be allocated a Solo now. The initial press release did say 'most' of the K network would be operated by new buses, so I wonder if the K7 is to be converted to Solo operation with the current Versas cascading on to the 60 alongside the new ones? Currently there are 10 Solos with a PVR of 8 (potentially 9 depending on where the additional K10 bus comes from) so that should leave enough spare for all journeys to be run with new buses I therefore hope that when I come to Keighley the K10 bus will be a new Solo, although I am prepared they probably interwork freely with earlier ones. I am quietly relying on route K7 still using Versas at that point.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 9, 2017 23:57:31 GMT 1
I think the "most" is to exclude the Asda K8, which was a Dart today and is presumably still a President during the week.
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Post by nic on Sept 10, 2017 14:54:18 GMT 1
Sounds a daft question but will be Versa's be able to cope with the 60 route? It's very intense route for any bus, various hills, inclines and very long for what i would of thought would be best suited to more interurban routes.
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Post by stevieinselby on Sept 10, 2017 18:34:39 GMT 1
Sounds a daft question but will be Versa's be able to cope with the 60 route? It's very intense route for any bus, various hills, inclines and very long for what i would of thought would be best suited to more interurban routes. I would have thought the Mainline network would be more demanding than the 60, given that it is almost entirely in urban areas in 30mph limits, apart from a couple of short sections on the A650 d/c. If they can cope with the hilly and faster routes of the Mainline then I don't see that the 60 will give them too much difficulty.
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Post by Burnside on Sept 10, 2017 20:26:03 GMT 1
I'm interested to see how any single decker copes on the 60. I still don't think they'll have the necessary capacity compared to double deckers.
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Post by northerner on Sept 10, 2017 21:33:28 GMT 1
I think the "most" is to exclude the Asda K8, which was a Dart today and is presumably still a President during the week. Ah, I always forget about the K8! That would make sense, although according to WYIS Solo 154 is on order which would take the Solo count to 11. Given Transdev have confirmed all weekend 60 journeys are to be run by Versas this would mean at least 7 will be required, so potentially Keighley's new bus order for 2017 could be as high as 14
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 10, 2017 21:48:28 GMT 1
I'm wondering if 154 might be for the 965 when they take it over.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Sept 12, 2017 11:00:09 GMT 1
A Dart is also being used on the Drax-Selby service. Keighley were using 703 last week. As it wasn't in the yard when I left York at 7 last night, it may be that something different will be used this week. 703 did move over to York last week (albeit it started in Keighley last Monday morning), and is the regular vehicle on the 8, although 2763 worked that on Friday.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 16, 2017 22:04:28 GMT 1
I'm interested to see how any single decker copes on the 60. I still don't think they'll have the necessary capacity compared to double deckers. I rode an Eclipse on the route as 760 in September 2015. I think it was specifically mixed single and double deck for a while.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 24, 2017 7:26:14 GMT 1
So, my Transdev Keighley buses yesterday were:-
Volvo B10BLE 1083 on route 67 Dart 710 on route K10 Vera 240 on route K7 Solo SR 157 on route K2 Volvo B7TL 2704 on route 60 Eclipse 1814 on route 62.
I was lucky to ride a 17-reg Solo SR and a Dart on the same trip!
I stated earlier this month that I had an incentive outside of buses to come to Bradford & Keighley in September or October. I may as well spill the beans, especially as several of you forum members are local to the area. Well, my favourite song during my adult years so far from a total newcomer has been Tasmin Archer's Sleeping Satellite. It initially charted in September 1992 and reached no 1 in October. I heard a report that Tasmin was from Keighley within the Borough of Bradford, but websites indicate that she is from Bradford itself. So, I timed this Bradford & Keighley trip in honour of Tasmin as a 25th anniversary celebration of the release of Sleeping Satellite!
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Post by scania60065 on Sept 25, 2017 4:30:42 GMT 1
So, my Transdev Keighley buses yesterday were:- Volvo B10BLE 1083 on route 67 Dart 710 on route K10 Vera 240 on route K7 Solo SR 157 on route K2 Volvo B7TL 2704 on route 60 Eclipse 1814 on route 62. I was lucky to ride a 17-reg Solo SR and a Dart on the same trip! I stated earlier this month that I had an incentive outside of buses to come to Bradford & Keighley in September or October. I may as well spill the beans, especially as several of you forum members are local to the area. Well, my favourite song during my adult years so far from a total newcomer has been Tasmin Archer's Sleeping Satellite. It initially charted in September 1992 and reached no 1 in October. I heard a report that Tasmin was from Keighley within the Borough of Bradford, but websites indicate that she is from Bradford itself. So, I timed this Bradford & Keighley trip in honour of Tasmin as a 25th anniversary celebration of the release of Sleeping Satellite! Do you mean 1814 on 662??
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Post by busmanmoss on Sept 26, 2017 10:57:44 GMT 1
Is the K8 a stand alone route
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Post by neukit on Sept 26, 2017 20:18:30 GMT 1
Is the K8 a stand alone route Yes, usually a DD in between its school duties.
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Post by SCH117X on Oct 4, 2017 18:25:20 GMT 1
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Oct 4, 2017 19:26:39 GMT 1
Thought they might have gone for glazed corners now they are an option
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Post by SCH117X on Oct 4, 2017 19:55:34 GMT 1
Could there be a weight issue with the rooflights why they have not gone for the glazed corners?
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Post by A1YBG on Oct 4, 2017 22:15:08 GMT 1
Could there be a weight issue with the rooflights why they have not gone for the glazed corners? I think they done it to keep it in line with the rest of the batch so they don't look out of place. Maybe they will on their next order for the north west.
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Post by northerner on Oct 7, 2017 22:51:26 GMT 1
It's been confirmed on Twitter there are to be 4 Versas for the 60, numbered 274-277 so looks like the 3 ex K7 Versa's will be transferring to the route although 240 has been out in standard Keighley Bus Company branding this week
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Oct 7, 2017 23:04:46 GMT 1
There aren't enough Solos to cover all the current routes plus the K7 unless Darts are going to make a return to Keighley town routes.
Still can't get my head round the slight elephant in the room that Transdev will ignore. These new Versas might be really good, but they have one less deck than the buses they are replacing. Even pensioners with free bus passes will often go upstairs to make the most of their free trip to Leeds.
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Post by northerner on Oct 8, 2017 9:55:30 GMT 1
There aren't enough Solos to cover all the current routes plus the K7 unless Darts are going to make a return to Keighley town routes. Still can't get my head round the slight elephant in the room that Transdev will ignore. These new Versas might be really good, but they have one less deck than the buses they are replacing. Even pensioners with free bus passes will often go upstairs to make the most of their free trip to Leeds. There are currently 10 Solos with 11 boards for the K network (not including the K8.) 154 is on order, but one thing I have only recently realised is 150-153 are 34 seaters whereas 155-160 have 30 seats. According to WYIS 154 will have 34 seats, which explains why the new Solos started at 155, but I would think 150-154 would be for K7/K9 services and 155-160 for the remainder. This would then give 11 Solos with a PVR of 11, suggesting that the occasional stand in will still be required Regarding the Versas on the 60, I still don't think they will have the required capacity. Transdev have stated numerous times that they know their loadings, but there's been at least 4/5 tweets in the last couple of weeks with complaints of overcrowding, and the Versas have 3 less seats than the B7/B10. The timetable does state which journeys are to be run by deckers, but they seem to be on journeys which fits their operational requirements rather than where capacity is needed. For example, the 0840 ex Keighley is a decker yet the 1555, 1635, 1715 and 1800 ex Leeds are Versas
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Oct 8, 2017 10:02:28 GMT 1
Yes those journeys are just the ones that run off schools, like they do today. It's doubtful if they really are the busiest, rather that they are the only ones that can run near a busy time and do a school run as well.
Also 60 buses currently drop back a run at the Keighley end to allow for late running, it'll be interesting if this comes to an end and they try and turn them round with just 12 mins layover
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Post by northerner on Oct 8, 2017 11:05:05 GMT 1
Did the off peak weekday journeys have 42 minutes layover at Keighley? 12 minutes should be doable most of the time
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 16:42:12 GMT 1
It's been confirmed on Twitter there are to be 4 Versas for the 60, numbered 274-277 so looks like the 3 ex K7 Versa's will be transferring to the route although 240 has been out in standard Keighley Bus Company branding this week 274 In Leeds bus station this morning Attachment Deleted
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Post by Burnside on Oct 8, 2017 21:17:44 GMT 1
On Facebook, Transdev state there will be 6 Versa's for Airelink.
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Post by SCH117X on Oct 8, 2017 21:35:37 GMT 1
According to WYIS its 242 and 243 that will be repainted in Aireline livery. Elsewhere withdrawn Harrogate B7 demonstrator 1700 has entered service in Blackburn
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