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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 22, 2017 0:34:11 GMT 1
The 24 is going to be reduced to only run hourly between Feniscowles and Chorley, the section from Blackburn remaining every 30 mins
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Post by northerner on Apr 22, 2017 22:49:13 GMT 1
Blackburn seems to suffer from a lot of service cuts. And looking at the new article for Valleyline it suggests the last bus to the hospital is around 8pm, which seems very early
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 23, 2017 12:04:31 GMT 1
Reading the issue of Bus & Coach Week that was dedicated to Transdev, it was explained that maintaining the local network was part of the deal when they took over Blackburn Transport.
Since that deal came to an end, pretty much the entire Blackburn local 'spot on' network has been withdrawn, there is only the 4,the shadsworth service and the Darwen shorts on the 1 that remain. Feniscowles and Mill Hill used to have umpteen dedicated routes in the Spot On network.
I wonder why as Blackburn is no more 'down at heel' than Keighley or Burnley is.
It's this why I wonder why they went with 'The Blackburn Bus Company' name when almost all their services are out of town interurban routes rather than Blackburn local services.
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 27, 2017 20:50:30 GMT 1
Replacing the Shadsworth Shuttle and no longer inter working with the Chorley route 24 Using the refurbished B10BLEs previously found on the York Unibus perhaps? This one looks very similar to Kinchbus in Alex Hornby's old stomping ground. According to yesterdays WYIS fleetlist wyis.byethost17.com/Blazefield.pdf its ex Keighley/Blackburn B10BLEs 566, 567 and 573 that are to be so painted.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 27, 2017 21:28:09 GMT 1
That seems odd considering they are so old, even older than the large Y/HRN batch and are currently still in as built Blazefield style internally
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Post by SCH117X on May 3, 2017 18:16:35 GMT 1
Also 574 is listed as being painted into Valley Line. Agreed it seems odd, maybe misinformation - its happened before with WYIS.
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Post by yt776 on Jun 7, 2017 15:15:51 GMT 1
Transdev 609 on m3 Transdev 603 on m2
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Post by 69340 on Jun 7, 2017 17:38:05 GMT 1
Transdev 609 on m3 Transdev 603 on m2 I think your post belongs in spotted
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 1, 2017 22:37:07 GMT 1
www.lancashirebus.co.uk/news.jsp?newsID=2025To mark the launch of The Burnley Bus Company, Transdev are making changes to the local Burnley network so it is more in tune with passengers current travelling habits. The 1 will be split into the 1, 3 and 4 and the Pike Hill section will be reduced to operate every 20 minutes. There is also great news on the 5 as to make the service better for passengers the service will change from every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes.
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Post by WYBS on Jul 2, 2017 0:54:47 GMT 1
www.lancashirebus.co.uk/news.jsp?newsID=2025To mark the launch of The Burnley Bus Company, Transdev are making changes to the local Burnley network so it is more in tune with passengers current travelling habits. The 1 will be split into the 1, 3 and 4 and the Pike Hill section will be reduced to operate every 20 minutes. There is also great news on the 5 as to make the service better for passengers the service will change from every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes. Classic Transdev B.S. as usual... to make the network more in tune with our passengers we will be cutting services and reducing frequencies.
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Post by neukit on Jul 2, 2017 13:54:59 GMT 1
Using phrases like 'better matching demand' is common throughout the industry, where service frequencies are being reduced. The common factor is often 'traditional' towns where high street footfall is declining, quite significantly in the worst cases. Is matching supply and demand not one of the most important factors in running any business?
I didn't notice any specific reference in the Burnley info re making any service better by reducing frequency.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 2, 2017 16:54:40 GMT 1
The line at the end "We hope you'll really like these changes"
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Post by dimmock87 on Jul 9, 2017 17:01:36 GMT 1
Their alot of movement between depots see a fair few versas going up n down m62 towards the east
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Post by neukit on Jul 10, 2017 0:38:16 GMT 1
Their alot of movement between depots see a fair few versas going up n down m62 towards the east The 30 new Versa's for Burnley have begun being delivered, so they are quite likely to have used the M62/M66/M65. Not aware of any other Versa movements at the moment.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 10, 2017 17:08:57 GMT 1
Their alot of movement between depots see a fair few versas going up n down m62 towards the east Versas in what livery?
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 10, 2017 21:44:14 GMT 1
Any Versas eastbound on the M62 could have been going back to Optare for guarantee work. The only scheduled movement at the moment is the displaced Mainline B7RLEs from Burnley going for refurb and then reallocation. Saw a tweet of one on the M6 and presumably a number have been withdrawn from Burnley if enough are to be refurbed and repainted in time for the relaunch of the 770/771 as the 70/71.
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 10, 2017 22:11:21 GMT 1
According to WYIS the fleet number range of the new Burnley Versas is 244 to 273 meaning that Blackburns 271 and 272, and Yorks 273 will be renumbered. The rest of the Versa fleet is 220-237 Blackburn 238-243 Keighley 274-275 Blackburn 276 York 277-284 Harrogate 285-286 Burnley Wonder if they will go for a simple replacement of the 7 with a 9
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Post by neukit on Jul 10, 2017 22:53:11 GMT 1
According to WYIS the fleet number range of the new Burnley Versas is 244 to 273 meaning that Blackburns 271 and 272, and Yorks 273 will be renumbered. The rest of the Versa fleet is 220-237 Blackburn 238-243 Keighley 274-275 Blackburn 276 York 277-284 Harrogate 285-286 Burnley Wonder if they will go for a simple replacement of the 7 with a 9 Reported elsewhere that 271-86 are being renumbered 201-16, with at least 204/5 already noted carrying their new numbers. The remaining B10Bs in the 201-11 range are becoming 1021-31, which should mean Harrogate 201/4 become 1021/4, with 208-10 at Keighley becoming 1028-30.
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 12, 2017 22:46:48 GMT 1
Reported elsewhere that 271-86 are being renumbered 201-16, with at least 204/5 already noted carrying their new numbers. The remaining B10Bs in the 201-11 range are becoming 1021-31, which should mean Harrogate 201/4 become 1021/4, with 208-10 at Keighley becoming 1028-30. WYIS are now showing these changes
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 15, 2018 19:34:22 GMT 1
More cuts in Blackburn Red Express will now only run Accrington to Manchester meaning no main road service between Accrington and Blackburn, another traditional Blackburn Transport route abandoned. Service 4 & 24 will be combined into one route. Leyburn Road reduces from every 15 mins to 2 buses per hour, Mill Hill from every 15 mins to every 20 mins, Feniscowles reduces from every 30 mins to hourly. Link via Ewood withdrawn entirely. There will now just be the 1, 4, 6/7, 22 & 152 run by The Blackburn Bus Company in Blackburn. www.lancashirebus.co.uk/news.jsp?newsID=2250
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 15, 2018 19:43:38 GMT 1
There are number of changes (improvements generally) to Rosso services from the same date so this probably explains where the resources for those are coming from.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 15, 2018 19:50:31 GMT 1
The network acquired from Blackburn Transport now amounts to a PVR of less than 10 buses
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Post by northerner on Feb 15, 2018 22:19:25 GMT 1
The network acquired from Blackburn Transport now amounts to a PVR of less than 10 buses Blackburn does seem to get a raw deal and with the 4 halving in frequency seems a bit much in one go. Any ideas what the PVR was when Blackburn Transport sold up?
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Post by SCH117X on Feb 15, 2018 22:27:23 GMT 1
Blackburn does seem to get a raw deal and with the 4 halving in frequency seems a bit much in one go. They do refer to custom having declined so presumably providing the service the demand warrants.
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Post by neukit on Feb 15, 2018 22:50:11 GMT 1
I understand that Blackburn Transport made significant losses, but was propped up by the council. When they sold it to Blazefield, I think there were various stipulations about continuing with a certain amount of the basket cases, which they have done for some time. I think the level of local services that you are seeing now, is what can be justified commercially based on the usage. They seem to be doing fine on the main corridors around Blackburn, which have seen regular investment, so it's not all doom and gloom!
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