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Post by SF07 on Apr 19, 2016 19:10:06 GMT 1
PB0004410/11 - E STOTT & SONS LTD, COLNE VALE GARAGE, SAVILE STREET, MILNSBRIDGE, HUDDERSFIELD, HD3 4PG Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Holmfirth and Wilberlee given service number 335 effective from 16-May-2016. To amend Timetable.
PB1121999/13 - LADIES ONLY TRAVEL LTD, SHERWOOD ROAD, ARMYTAGE ROAD INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, BRIGHOUSE, HD6 1QG Registration Accepted by SN Starting Point: Hemsworth Bus Station Finish Point: Hemsworth Bus Station Via: Service Number: 197 Service Type: Limited Stop Effective Date: 16-MAY-2016 Other Details: Monday to Saturday
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Apr 19, 2016 19:13:48 GMT 1
That 197 will be the new tender to cover the 194 part (Ryhll to Hemsworth?) not served by the 193.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 19, 2016 19:19:26 GMT 1
Distance is no boundary for LOT it seems. Driver changeovers must be a pain, not to mention if a bus breaks down.
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 19, 2016 21:27:31 GMT 1
The Transdev York 22/23 seem a bit more clearer looking at their registrations on VOSA and have to wonder how NYCC came up with their list PB0001873/68 YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD Ripon Bus Station Harrogate Bus Station 22(23) Registered PB0001873/69 YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD Boroughbridge, Market Place Ripon Bus Station 23 Registered PB0001873/70 YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD Boroughbridge, Market Place Ripon Bus Station 22 Registered PB0001873/71 YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD York, Piccadilly Boroughbridge, Market Place 22(22X,23,23X) Registered
Putting it all together the 142 becomes the 22 and the 143 the 23, at a guess some will run direct along the B6265 south of Boroughbridge hence the 22X and 23X, meanwhile they also replace the 56 - at guess the more direct services to Knaresborough being one number and the less direct ones being the other but then again, given the complete mess of numbering that 56 56A 57 57B have had in the past which usually bears no resemblance to the route taken, maybe not.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Apr 20, 2016 7:09:08 GMT 1
That 197 will be the new tender to cover the 194 part (Ryhll to Hemsworth?) not served by the 193. Or it could be the section of the 195 between Bus Station & Highfield Estate. The section that the 193 doesn't serve is Ryhill Green - Newstead. Are you thinking of the Newstead - Fitzwilliam - Hemsworth section which was completely withdrawn from the 196?
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Apr 20, 2016 9:57:15 GMT 1
I'm not sure now you've mentioned about the 196 but I know Metro have received many complaints from residents somewhere in that area that they no longer have a direct link to Hemsworth.
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Post by whereami on Apr 26, 2016 5:07:17 GMT 1
TLC's revised times for 900/901, from what I can work out from the proposed duties that we've been given at Huddersfield, Sunday's meal break will be taken at Huddersfield, rather than at Hebden Bridge, like Tiger Blue do, at the moment. So, 2 round trips to Hebden Bridge, break, then one final round trip, running an hour earlier.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 27, 2016 16:41:28 GMT 1
TLC's revised times for 900/901, from what I can work out from the proposed duties that we've been given at Huddersfield, Sunday's meal break will be taken at Huddersfield, rather than at Hebden Bridge, like Tiger Blue do, at the moment. So, 2 round trips to Hebden Bridge, break, then one final round trip, running an hour earlier. The 900 and 902 times are now on the Metro Wrbsite. The 0732 from Hebden Bridge has been given an extra 8 minutes to get to Huddersfield with the 0930 from Barkisland unchanged. Both 900s and the 902 from Huddersfield have an extra 10 minuts to reach their destinations.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 27, 2016 18:15:26 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on Apr 28, 2016 19:45:55 GMT 1
PB0004451/24 - THE HALIFAX BUS CO LTD, 18 STONECROFT MOUNT, SOWERBY BRIDGE, HX6 2SB Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Brighouse Bus Station and Barkisland given service number 564 effective from 03-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 28, 2016 21:00:00 GMT 1
Still there, as posted on April 15th.
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Post by gooderson1 on May 4, 2016 9:59:08 GMT 1
I am assuming that the Ladies Only Travel website is wrong unless someone knows better. The WYMetro website for the summer Sat/Sun/BH 951 between Huddersfield and Glossop shows 4 return journeys however the LOT website for the 951 is totally different. Three return journeys Mon-Fri Saturday 1 journey(Huddersfield-Glossop) at 1720 returning at 1820 and 1 Sun/BH journey at 1700 returning at 1810. Which website is correct or are they both wrong.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 4, 2016 10:24:04 GMT 1
Doesn't run Monday to Friday
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Post by gooderson1 on May 4, 2016 10:53:43 GMT 1
Yes I know that the route does not run Mon-Fri but the is always the possibility that LOT have decided to run it commercially during the week and have therefore shown it on their website. However if it is only Sat/Sun/BH I am assuming the WYMetro site is correct and the LOT is wrong
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Post by deerfold on May 4, 2016 11:30:55 GMT 1
Whoever who has put the timetables on the LOT site seems to have put the SO times in Saturday, the SuBHO times in Sunday and then the ones with no code on Monday to Friday whereas they actually operate those times on Saturdays AND Sundays.
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Post by SCH117X on May 10, 2016 22:00:43 GMT 1
A trawl of the journey planner website brought up these details for the Transdev Little Explorer combined 56/142/142
0610 23X York-Ripon (0705) via Kirk Hammerton, Boroughbridge & Kirkby Hill only 0630 22X York-Knaresborough (0709) via Kirk Hammerton only 0650 23 York-Boroughbridge-Marton le Moor-(0808)Ripon-Knaresborough-Harrogate(0922)-runs direct from Green Hammerton to Aldbrough. 0840 & 1040 22 York-Boroughbridge-Skelton-(1000 & 1200)Ripon-Knaresborough-Harrogate(1114 & 1314) 1245 22 York-Hessay-Boroughbridge-Skelton-(1405)Ripon-Knaresborough(1457) 1445 22 York-Boroughbridge-Skelton-(1610 SCH 1616 Not Sch)Ripon-Knaresborough-Harrogate(1733) 1645 22 York-Boroughbridge-Skelton-(1810)Ripon-Knaresborough(1902) 1750 22 York-Boroughbridge-Skelton-Ripon(1907)
708 22 Ripon-Skelton-Boroughbridge-York(835) 715 22 Knaresborough-(0813 SCH 0838 Not Sch)Ripon-Skelton-Boroughbridge-Hessay-York(1005) 1000,& 1200 & 1400 22 Harrogate-Knaresborough-(1118 & 1318 & 1518)Ripon-Skelton-Boroughbridge-York(1238 & 1438 & 1638) 1500 23 Knaresborough-(1555)Ripon-Marton le Moor-Boroughbridge-York(1745) 1740 22 Harrogate-Knaresborough-(1855)Ripon-Boroughbridge-York(1956) 1905 22X Knaresborough-York (1944) via Kirk Hammerton only 1910 23X Ripon-York (2004) via Kirkby Hill, Boroughbridge & Kirk Hammerton only
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Post by stevieinselby on May 10, 2016 22:21:28 GMT 1
Interesting. I still don't see any logic to running it as a through service rather than keeping separate services from Harrogate to Ripon and Ripon to York as now. It looks very much like they are prioritising the main towns a long the route, and a lot of villages are going to be losing out, particularly the Dishforth and Marton branch, which looks to only have one journey in each direction if I've read it too right, which is a very disappointing reduction. I assume this is entirely commercial, apart from the diversion into Hessay? I wonder if NYCC will step in and fund any additional services to those villages.
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Post by deerfold on May 11, 2016 14:15:16 GMT 1
Whoever who has put the timetables on the LOT site seems to have put the SO times in Saturday, the SuBHO times in Sunday and then the ones with no code on Monday to Friday whereas they actually operate those times on Saturdays AND Sundays. The LOT website has been updated, so no longer shows any buses running Monday to Friday on the 951. However it now shows the last bus as operating at the same times on Saturdays and Sundays and only has times for one direction.
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Post by SCH117X on May 11, 2016 17:57:03 GMT 1
Interesting. I still don't see any logic to running it as a through service rather than keeping separate services from Harrogate to Ripon and Ripon to York as now. It looks very much like they are prioritising the main towns a long the route, and a lot of villages are going to be losing out, particularly the Dishforth and Marton branch, which looks to only have one journey in each direction if I've read it too right, which is a very disappointing reduction. I assume this is entirely commercial, apart from the diversion into Hessay? I wonder if NYCC will step in and fund any additional services to those villages. What it does do is provide a few extra journeys; there are currently 4 56s each way between Knaresborough and Ripon , 7 142/143s between York and Ripon and 6 in the reverse direction. The 57 presently provides 2 extra journeys each way to some of the villages served by the 56. Ignoring the 22X and 23X there is an extra Ripon-York journey while the Knaresborough-Ripon service boosts to 6 each way. As one Ripon bound 56 ran fast over part of the route nearly all the villages along that route gain an additional journey or two. The 143 route between Boroughbridge and Ripon does take a hammering but presumably their experience of running it shows little demand from villages along the route. Also it seems the sole am peak working into Harrogate will be axed. It seems to provide for better utilisation of 3 vehicles than the current timetables do.
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Post by northrob on May 11, 2016 18:17:46 GMT 1
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Post by SCH117X on May 11, 2016 18:37:36 GMT 1
Marton to Arkendale in 1hr6 - 2 1/2 miles apart!
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Post by SCH117X on May 11, 2016 21:38:17 GMT 1
The 1A alternative routing of every other journey via the 57 route to Boroughbridge will boost the services serving Arkendale, Ferrensby and Staveley. With that in mind have to wonder why all 22/23 journeys are serving those villages as well as skipping some/all of them would usefully quicken the Knaresborough-Ripon section.
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Post by SCH117X on May 12, 2016 20:52:27 GMT 1
The 1A timetable has now been issued www.harrogatebus.co.uk/cmsUploads/route/files/1AttMay2016online.pdfThose following the 57 route via Flaxby terminate at Boroughbridge. This will not serve Ferrensby leaving that to the 22/23. Most of those running via the A1 now serve Goldsborough instead of the "57" and continue to Roecliffe with no service to Kirby Hill.
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Post by twansport on May 22, 2016 21:29:44 GMT 1
Re: mainline 25. Last renumbered in 2011 however the number 25 has been used for years ( was 669 before that to fit in with the 666-668 group) M3 and M4 used to be used for the minibus routes in the Haworth area. How long ago was the 669 run to Colne. I remember the 669 Keighley to Airedale Hospital service.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 23, 2016 2:06:08 GMT 1
Re: mainline 25. Last renumbered in 2011 however the number 25 has been used for years ( was 669 before that to fit in with the 666-668 group) M3 and M4 used to be used for the minibus routes in the Haworth area. How long ago was the 669 run to Colne. I remember the 669 Keighley to Airedale Hospital service. There were two 669 routes: the first (1977-1982) was the renumbered service 9 Keighley to Colne (local bus routes used three figures generally from 1977). the second (1986- ??) was a new Keighley to Airedale Hospital daytime-only service, set up on deregulation day, not sure how long it lasted
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