|
Post by 112jct41 on Apr 12, 2016 19:22:47 GMT 1
The boss replacing Martijn started yesterday and seems to be from First York by the look of his twitter. His name is Suart Fillingham.
|
|
|
Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 12, 2016 19:35:28 GMT 1
Let's hope he can transform the operation to how it was when Martijin was in charge.
|
|
|
Post by rider5521 on Apr 12, 2016 20:45:06 GMT 1
There is a new team at Tiger. The new MD is Simon Finnie from Arriva North West.. He is supported by Tony Lowe from Castleford whom is the new Head of Engineering, and Stuart Fillingham who is now Head of operations, who joined from first York. all 3 have excellent reputations.
|
|
|
Post by 112jct41 on Apr 12, 2016 20:47:41 GMT 1
Let's hope he can transform the operation to how it was when Martijin was in charge. so far he's done meet and greets in Halifax today with drivers and passengers so he may do it round the four depots/stations first to get a feel for the areas and to get an idea of improvements to services let alone the fleet and staff as fleet side it can be seen Nigel and the rest of the Arriva northern england teams have tried to replace withdrawn buses although we never no 780 & 781 may return as well as two of the scania solars that were at waterloo (750 & 751 i think they are) to replace the existing fleet vacancies.
|
|
WYBS
Forum Member
Watch-o
Posts: 1,489
|
Post by WYBS on Apr 14, 2016 15:40:41 GMT 1
Don't jump down my throat, but I believe that in a couple of years time maybe 3 or 4, Yorkshire Tiger will have moved out of Leeds and Mr Alex Hornby and his merry men will move in (Transdev Leeds). I really think Transdev have ambitions to get worm there way into Leeds more, anyway it would be better for the public (if they could take over some First Routes aswell).
Don't get me wrong, I like Tiger BTW
|
|
|
Post by Craig on Apr 14, 2016 19:25:10 GMT 1
I think we can all mostly agree that Tiger's original high standards have taken a recent downturn, without having to resort to nonsensical comments about coffee cups and rats.
On the bright side, let's hope the new manager can pick up the company and continue the standards originally set, as the company seemed to have lots of promise and with its parent company backing I hope it begins to deliver again.
|
|
|
Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 16, 2016 22:16:22 GMT 1
Don't jump down my throat, but I believe that in a couple of years time maybe 3 or 4, Yorkshire Tiger will have moved out of Leeds and Mr Alex Hornby and his merry men will move in (Transdev Leeds). I really think Transdev have ambitions to get worm there way into Leeds more, anyway it would be better for the public (if they could take over some First Routes aswell). Don't get me wrong, I like Tiger BTW As Transdev run into Leeds from Keighley, Harrogate and the east coast via York, they would be a logical successor to Yorkshire Tiger in Leeds. The July route changes and tenders could be very interesting!
|
|
|
Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 16, 2016 23:25:32 GMT 1
First signs of a brighter future, the promotional Twitter account has been reactivated, there hadn't been a tweet since last year, and they are promoting services and responding to customers.
|
|
|
Post by sharksmith on Apr 17, 2016 18:49:24 GMT 1
You're not kidding, it's been an absolute torrent of tweets from them today.
You just get the feeling a few employees may be about to be rudely woken up but only time will tell if this is a false dawn or the real thing!
|
|
|
Post by stevieinselby on Apr 17, 2016 20:07:26 GMT 1
As Transdev run into Leeds from Keighley, Harrogate and the east coast via York, they would be a logical successor to Yorkshire Tiger in Leeds. The July route changes and tenders could be very interesting! I'm not convinced. Firstly, just because Transdev run into Leeds from every which way doesn't mean they want to run a Leeds network. It very likely wouldn't be cost effective to run it from Keighley, Harrogate or Fulford, they would need a depot in Leeds, so from that point of view may be in a worse position than other operators who already have a base there. Secondly, Transdev generally focus on having high-quality operations and premium routes. Yes, you could argue that some of the Keighley and Lancashire networks doesn't fall into this category, but in general they are not a company that look to do things cheaply. While there are some Tiger routes that maybe could do with a bit of premium treatment (maybe the airport buses), the emphasis for most of the network is about keeping costs down. These aren't routes that will work on a high-cost, high-service model. Remember that Transdev used to have buses from Harrogate, Keighley, Burnley & Pendle and Lancashire all running into Skipton, but that didn't mean they had any interest in taking over when Pennine folded. They might cherry-pick a few choice routes, but I can't see them being interested in taking the lot.
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Apr 17, 2016 21:37:45 GMT 1
There was a story going round that Transdev wanted the Airport routes (or at least the Bradford-Harrogate one) a few months back at the same time as mentioning they were after the Ilkley-Harrogate route.
|
|
|
Post by ldsbus on Apr 18, 2016 22:10:11 GMT 1
I've just seen a Tempo behind a recovery vehicle being towed down Kirkstall Road away from the city centre... doesn't look good!
Edit: offending bus was back out today
|
|
WYBS
Forum Member
Watch-o
Posts: 1,489
|
Post by WYBS on Apr 21, 2016 19:55:08 GMT 1
As Transdev run into Leeds from Keighley, Harrogate and the east coast via York, they would be a logical successor to Yorkshire Tiger in Leeds. The July route changes and tenders could be very interesting! I'm not convinced. Firstly, just because Transdev run into Leeds from every which way doesn't mean they want to run a Leeds network. It very likely wouldn't be cost effective to run it from Keighley, Harrogate or Fulford, they would need a depot in Leeds, so from that point of view may be in a worse position than other operators who already have a base there. Secondly, Transdev generally focus on having high-quality operations and premium routes. Yes, you could argue that some of the Keighley and Lancashire networks doesn't fall into this category, but in general they are not a company that look to do things cheaply. While there are some Tiger routes that maybe could do with a bit of premium treatment (maybe the airport buses), the emphasis for most of the network is about keeping costs down. These aren't routes that will work on a high-cost, high-service model. Remember that Transdev used to have buses from Harrogate, Keighley, Burnley & Pendle and Lancashire all running into Skipton, but that didn't mean they had any interest in taking over when Pennine folded. They might cherry-pick a few choice routes, but I can't see them being interested in taking the lot. I can see what you're saying, but I think Transdev would be great to take over University routes like they run in York. Obviously they would have to have a depot in Leeds. I think Transdev would do it in such a way that they built up a great network of Uni routes and eventually took a lot of custom from First; causing First to lessen their frequencies (No 1, 6, 97 etc...) and Transdev would grow. Alex and Transdev aren't stupid they know how to build a great customer base and will go for an opportunity if they see it.
|
|
kendall17
Forum Member
Justice for the 96!
Posts: 4,514
|
Post by kendall17 on Apr 21, 2016 21:01:05 GMT 1
The thing is with Uni routes you have to be able to match first'd frequency - A bus every 96seconds or something like.
You then have their period tickets that allow access to their entire Leeds network, something that no other operator could keep up with.
Key to Leeds's "university" routes is the fact that they aren't designed entirely for students. 1, 6, 28, 56 & 97, don't just serve areas populated with students. They have other target audiences too. Sections of the aforementioned routes will be much higher profit margins, than that of the student sections which is why I believe we have seen 2 operators give student specific services a shot commercially, but fail quite dramatically.
|
|
|
Post by leeds rider on Apr 22, 2016 12:39:49 GMT 1
The main thing about the routes Tiger is giving up is that they terminate actually on Leeds Beckett University's Headingley Campus - which is a good 5-10 minutes walk from the main road where all the First services run. They also prominently target student residences, either as the other terminus (29 and 39) or in locations along the way (69). I'm quite sure there will be some involvement from Leeds Beckett in getting these replaced, as there is a commitment to reduce commuting by car for both staff and students.
|
|
kendall17
Forum Member
Justice for the 96!
Posts: 4,514
|
Post by kendall17 on Apr 22, 2016 23:14:55 GMT 1
The main thing about the routes Tiger is giving up is that they terminate actually on Leeds Beckett University's Headingley Campus - which is a good 5-10 minutes walk from the main road where all the First services run. They also prominently target student residences, either as the other terminus (29 and 39) or in locations along the way (69). I'm quite sure there will be some involvement from Leeds Beckett in getting these replaced, as there is a commitment to reduce commuting by car for both staff and students. And that's why the routes don't work. Firsts routes have the backbone from other target areas. The majority of YTs routes are commercially run, targeting predominantly students who are in uni 65%? Of the year whereas I still commute 90% of the year. These haven't worked in the past & aren't working now.
|
|
|
Post by ldsbus on May 5, 2016 14:43:10 GMT 1
The 29 seems to be being cancelled fairly regularly, looking at twitter there was no evening service on 01/05, no service after 17:45 on 02/05 and a reduced service on 04/05 due to 'operational difficulties'. From experience, I was waiting a good 45 minutes for one to show up at around 3pm on 03/05 as well, and I can't say I've noticed one go past my window recently this afternoon! Is there a good reason for this?
|
|
MT
Forum Member
Excuse me while I kiss the sky
Posts: 544
|
Post by MT on May 5, 2016 16:22:35 GMT 1
The 29 seems to be being cancelled fairly regularly, looking at twitter there was no evening service on 01/05, no service after 17:45 on 02/05 and a reduced service on 04/05 due to 'operational difficulties'. From experience, I was waiting a good 45 minutes for one to show up at around 3pm on 03/05 as well, and I can't say I've noticed one go past my window recently this afternoon! Is there a good reason for this? Staffing issues, the forthcoming closure of Leeds depot and threat of redundancy/job uncertainty has caused many drivers to "jump ship" and find other work. Uni routes will be the first to suffer, as they are due to finish on the 29th May anyway
|
|
|
Post by pub146g on May 5, 2016 16:34:09 GMT 1
Indeed this appears to be true, today's school service CH21 appeared to have been worked by Connextions as reported in the spotted thread.
|
|
|
Post by gooderson1 on May 5, 2016 19:10:07 GMT 1
Somewhere along the line the failure to operate services in accordance with the timetables posted with the traffic commissioners will come to the notice of the commissioners. After that there are a number of options that can be handed down. I hope I am wrong but it would be in the hands of those in government agency based in Leeds.
|
|
|
Post by Craig on May 5, 2016 19:53:09 GMT 1
Whilst this is clearly an interesting topic currently, can we stick to discussion just on this thread? I'm losing track of the multiple threads which all cover the similar theme of Tiger's decline (and hopeful recovery) but also the impending Leeds depot/network closure (though not yet formally announced).
I've therefore closed the other threads and kept this one alive (partly because this one's got the best thread title!)
|
|
|
Post by westyorkshirebus on May 5, 2016 20:03:31 GMT 1
Somewhere along the line the failure to operate services in accordance with the timetables posted with the traffic commissioners will come to the notice of the commissioners. After that there are a number of options that can be handed down. I hope I am wrong but it would be in the hands of those in government agency based in Leeds. All bus companies miss trips though, it's only noticeable here because Tiger let customers know on Twitter and because many have got the knives out now so start a new thread every time one trip is missed. There was a bus missing for a couple of hours on the 363 on Bank Holiday Monday, of course First didn't tweet about it, so it went unnoticed except for those intending to travel. Even Transdev sometimes tweet missed trips
|
|
|
Post by ldsbus on May 5, 2016 20:15:29 GMT 1
I've not got it in for Yorkshire Tiger, in fact I've stuck with them even though the service hasn't been great recently. It seems more than just one trip here and there though, it feels like almost every time I try to catch a 29 at least one won't turn up. It's great that they post on twitter when a service isn't running as it means I won't go and wait for a non-existent bus, it just shows that this is beginning to be routine rather than occasional.
With the suggested staff shortage due to drivers leaving (which is understandable given the circumstances) I'd much rather they just put out some kind of an emergency timetable with reduced frequency that they think they could stick to as at least you'd then know what should be running, as opposed to a rather vague 'reduced service'. I'm not sure if they'd be able to do that though?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 8:48:10 GMT 1
does anyone know who won the airport service?
|
|
|
Post by peteleeds on Sept 8, 2016 9:25:58 GMT 1
does anyone know who won the airport service? I see on the October service change thread tiger have a variation accepted on 737 and 747 routes so assume they've kept the contract for them 2. Not seen anything about 757 or the harrogate link (previous 767 before been added to the Bradford services)
|
|