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Post by SF07 on May 13, 2015 18:58:38 GMT 1
First change for July on VOSA, with Arriva bringing back the J32 for the summer again:
PB0000582/128 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Registration Accepted Starting Point: Selby Finish Point: Junction 32 Outlet Village Via: Service Number: J32 Service Type: Limited Stop Effective Date: 29-JUL-2015 Other Details: Introduce new service J32
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Post by SF07 on May 18, 2015 18:39:04 GMT 1
PB0000092/257 - THE YORKSHIRE TRACTION CO LTD T/A STAGECOACH YORKSHIRE, UNIT 4, ELDON ARCADE, BARNSLEY, S70 2JP Variation Accepted: Operating between Barnsley and Pontefract given service number 28/28A/29/30/30A/X28 effective from 18-Jul-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
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Post by mk2mcw on May 18, 2015 22:31:22 GMT 1
PB0000092/257 - THE YORKSHIRE TRACTION CO LTD T/A STAGECOACH YORKSHIRE, UNIT 4, ELDON ARCADE, BARNSLEY, S70 2JP Variation Accepted: Operating between Barnsley and Pontefract given service number 28/28A/29/30/30A/X28 effective from 18-Jul-2015. To amend Route and Timetable. still can't get it right can they?
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Post by SF07 on May 19, 2015 18:35:23 GMT 1
PB0000092/216 - THE YORKSHIRE TRACTION CO LTD T/A STAGECOACH YORKSHIRE, UNIT 4, ELDON ARCADE, BARNSLEY, S70 2JP Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Bradford given service number 425 effective from 18-Jul-2015.
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Post by timelesstable on May 19, 2015 18:50:29 GMT 1
PB0000092/216 - THE YORKSHIRE TRACTION CO LTD T/A STAGECOACH YORKSHIRE, UNIT 4, ELDON ARCADE, BARNSLEY, S70 2JP Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Bradford given service number 425 effective from 18-Jul-2015. That would just be the Sunday evening services they had on tender
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Post by mk2mcw on May 20, 2015 1:42:42 GMT 1
PB0000092/216 - THE YORKSHIRE TRACTION CO LTD T/A STAGECOACH YORKSHIRE, UNIT 4, ELDON ARCADE, BARNSLEY, S70 2JP Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Bradford given service number 425 effective from 18-Jul-2015. That would just be the Sunday evening services they had on tender obviously not bothered about a further tender
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Post by timelesstable on May 20, 2015 6:55:04 GMT 1
That would just be the Sunday evening services they had on tender obviously not bothered about a further tender Or more trouble than it was worth, will this also see the end of their Sunday evening service on 444 as well!
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on May 20, 2015 13:08:06 GMT 1
obviously not bothered about a further tender Or more trouble than it was worth, will this also see the end of their Sunday evening service on 444 as well! Think the operation isn't that much trouble for Stagecoach. Regular drivers as the rota covers 425/445 and 153/154. If anything it's the 153/154 that cause the problems, due to the drivers travelling to/from Castleford by train, and there being regular problems with the trains.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on May 20, 2015 19:20:27 GMT 1
That would just be the Sunday evening services they had on tender obviously not bothered about a further tender 56-days to the end of tender, VOSA are tightening up on short-notice changes/cancellations so many operators are no longer willing to wait for the result of the tender if they are approaching the 56-day deadline to ensure they don't have to keep running after the end of the contract.
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Post by SF07 on May 21, 2015 19:00:40 GMT 1
Plenty of Arriva changes on VOSA today, scattered with some First changes. Arriva cancelling the 46 and 177 and possible changes to the Marsden/Slaithwaite services (181-186):
PB0000582/7 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Pontefract given service number 581/147/157 effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/8 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Castleford and Leeds given service number 167/168 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0000582/9 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Pontefract - Leeds given service number 184/185/189 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/14 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Castleford and Leeds given service number 166/163/504/526/588/X60 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/16 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Leeds and Hall Green given service number 443/444/X41 effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/17 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Wetherby given service number 174/173A/174A/175/175A effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0000582/20 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Knottingley given service number 187/188 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/22 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Doncaster given service number 496 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0000582/23 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Bradford given service number 425/427 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/24 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wrenthorpe and Wakefield given service number 101 effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/36 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Batley given service number 119/120/651 effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/44 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Pontefract and Leeds given service number 410 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/45 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Castleford and Chequerfield given service number 135/136/138/567/587 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/47 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Castleford and Pontefract given service number 177 effective from 19-Jul-2015.
PB0000582/54 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Cancellation Accepted: Operating between South Hiendley and Pontefract given service number 46 effective from 19-Jul-2015.
PB0000582/56 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Leeds given service number 481 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/58 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Castleford and Castleford given service number 159/156 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/74 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Selby and Doncaster given service number 7/405/407/619/X45 effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0000582/82 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between 41 Business Park and Wakefield given service number 103 effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/88 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Leeds given service number X25/225/252/254/255 effective from 18-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/92 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Dewsbury and Pudsey given service number 205/651/659 effective from 18-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/96 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Wakefield and Huddersfield given service number 231/128/130/232/265/535/536 effective from 18-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000815/44 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton, Thorpe Lane and Roundhay Park given service number 12/13/13A effective from 31-May-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000815/45 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Middleton, Thorpe Lane and Roundhay Park given service number 2/3/3A effective from 31-May-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000815/205 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted: Operating between Huddersfield Bus Station and Marsden Dirker given service number 181/182/183/185/186 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PB0000815/380 - FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD, HUNSLET PARK DEPOT, DONISTHORPE STREET, LEEDS, LS10 1PL Variation Accepted: Operating between HUDDERSFIELD and MELTHAM given service number 321/323/324 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 21, 2015 19:24:09 GMT 1
Sunday evening (425) presume this will revert to ARRIVA operation
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Post by alx400 on May 21, 2015 19:32:27 GMT 1
177/46 tenders have been lost.
Apparently a couple more tenders have been lost too.
Heared M Travel have lost evening 134 chequerfield tender.
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Post by Penfold on May 21, 2015 20:52:18 GMT 1
Is there any way (other than waiting for the Metro 'Changing Times' leaflet/website info) of finding out what these changes (whether times or route) entail on the VOSA site ?
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Post by mk2mcw on May 22, 2015 11:46:39 GMT 1
Is there any way (other than waiting for the Metro 'Changing Times' leaflet/website info) of finding out what these changes (whether times or route) entail on the VOSA site ? Penfold I'm glad you mentioned that It gets really annoying being teased about bus changes
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Post by mk2mcw on May 22, 2015 11:47:58 GMT 1
177/46 tenders have been lost. Apparently a couple more tenders have been lost too. Heared M Travel have lost evening 134 chequerfield tender. maybe the 134 isn't necessary? I haven't travelled on the evening journeys so I don't know if they are well used or not
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on May 22, 2015 15:13:50 GMT 1
Is there any way (other than waiting for the Metro 'Changing Times' leaflet/website info) of finding out what these changes (whether times or route) entail on the VOSA site ? Penfold Think its either wait for Changing Times, or visit Harehills and spend your money to view the actual registration papers.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on May 22, 2015 15:15:26 GMT 1
That would just be the Sunday evening services they had on tender obviously not bothered about a further tender The fact that the 425 has been de registered, and the 444 hasn't (as yet), could point to them loosing the tender
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Post by davopazza on May 22, 2015 16:16:58 GMT 1
177/46 tenders have been lost. Apparently a couple more tenders have been lost too. Heared M Travel have lost evening 134 chequerfield tender. Is it that the contract will no longer exist or that it has been won by another operator?
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Post by alx400 on May 22, 2015 22:36:12 GMT 1
177/46 tenders have been lost. Apparently a couple more tenders have been lost too. Heared M Travel have lost evening 134 chequerfield tender. Is it that the contract will no longer exist or that it has been won by another operator? Don't quote me on it as I'm not 100% but what I overheated its been won by another operator, the Sunday tender run by Arriva may be with another operator too, possibly Same operator as 177. Rumours flying round are Stagecoach or Tiger. But I wouldn't believe them, then again who else could realistically take them from around here?
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on May 22, 2015 23:07:58 GMT 1
Is it that the contract will no longer exist or that it has been won by another operator? Don't quote me on it as I'm not 100% but what I overheated its been won by another operator, the Sunday tender run by Arriva may be with another operator too, possibly Same operator as 177. Rumours flying round are Stagecoach or Tiger. But I wouldn't believe them, then again who else could realistically take them from around here? according to a post on Facebook - TATES!
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 22, 2015 23:15:02 GMT 1
Not the old Tates fantasist is it, who was predicting big things for Tates in West Yorkshire time and time again, which never happened. Every massive tender win turned out to be the most insignificant minor service ever known.
No doubt someone would have heard it from a bus driver so it must be true, as if a driver would know half the stuff this far in advance, they'd probably know barely any earlier than the passengers!
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Post by alx400 on May 23, 2015 9:31:27 GMT 1
Don't quote me on it as I'm not 100% but what I overheated its been won by another operator, the Sunday tender run by Arriva may be with another operator too, possibly Same operator as 177. Rumours flying round are Stagecoach or Tiger. But I wouldn't believe them, then again who else could realistically take them from around here? according to a post on Facebook - TATES! I thought they were in trouble? If true Ponte and cas are gonna be full of banged up enviros of an evening lol
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Post by davopazza on May 23, 2015 9:44:59 GMT 1
according to a post on Facebook - TATES! I thought they were in trouble? If true Ponte and cas are gonna be full of banged up enviros of an evening lol I think they are in trouble and I would be suprised if it was tates unless it's a desperate attempt to improve cash flow.
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Post by SF07 on May 23, 2015 10:13:23 GMT 1
From VOSA yesterday:
PB0000582/45 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Castleford and Chequerfield given service number 135/136/138/567/587 effective from 19-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/77 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Selby and Wakefield given service number 150/616 effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0000582/78 - ARRIVA YORKSHIRE LTD, 24 BARNSLEY ROAD, WAKEFIELD, WF1 5JX Variation Accepted: Operating between Selby and Leeds given service number 403/402/626 effective from 20-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on May 23, 2015 22:07:07 GMT 1
I thought they were in trouble? If true Ponte and cas are gonna be full of banged up enviros of an evening lol I think they are in trouble and I would be suprised if it was tates unless it's a desperate attempt to improve cash flow. Rumours are that they may be about to give Island Fortitude the elbow, and go it alone. This may be the start of the resurrection.
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