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Post by Bradford Traveller on Mar 27, 2015 21:35:37 GMT 1
Re (571): this route operatingSunday morning for the first time.
THIS must be an anomaly in present-day operations, cannot think of any other route that starts halfway through the afternoon?
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Post by andyk4050 on Mar 27, 2015 22:15:08 GMT 1
I read the booklet and it surprised me that the 173A, 174A & 175A are gunna be run by First? Is this Right?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 27, 2015 22:42:16 GMT 1
That's what you call a misprint! Re (571): this route operatingSunday morning for the first time. THIS must be an anomaly in present-day operations, cannot think of any other route that starts halfway through the afternoon? Indeed, it's always been very odd that the 571 didn't start to run full route until the afternoon on Sundays, I wonder if this change is a commercial decision by Yorkshire Tiger? Interesting new schooldays only journeys on 2/3/12/13, presumably where these services pass schools, encouraging the kids to use this special journey rather than delaying the 'service car' and ending up messing up the frequency and causing bunching which presumably happens now. Not sure why the 7s are no longer serving the railway station? Interesting route changes to 55, 64, 74 in Leeds City Centre New 88 which seems to be an additional service, not a replacement for something, also new Leeds Dock shuttle, I wonder what they will use on that, and is it a one bus job? Both First & Transdev have realised that running dead along the full route is sometimes daft so some currently dead runs are made into advertised services. Also first time ever the Bon Marche services have been mentioned in a publication is when they are being withdrawn. A shame really as they were always an interesting little quirk and one of very few old fashioned works services still in operation. Is the factory closing down or something? |
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Mar 27, 2015 22:54:23 GMT 1
Wonder if the 102 Bon Marche 'Office' service is staying, as its not listed in the booklet, just the 100/101 'Workers' services.
As there is no change listed for the 241 (to add in the trips currently dropped to cover the 102) I guess it may survive.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Mar 27, 2015 23:04:49 GMT 1
Also, will Tates journeys on the 212 follow the revised route?
Could be interesting on Sundays if they don't, when you have periods when Tates operate journeys in one direction on the route running via Batley Road, whilst Arriva are operating journeys the opposite direction running via Flanshaw.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Mar 28, 2015 9:33:19 GMT 1
Apparently, whilst Bon Marche 100 to Dewsbury is withdrawn, the 101 is only being withdrawn between Milnsbridge & Huddersfield.
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Post by SF07 on Mar 31, 2015 19:13:46 GMT 1
From VOSA today:
PB1078487/33 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Halifax Bus Station and Halifax Bus Station given service number 561/562 effective from 26-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB1078487/61 - YORKSHIRE TIGER LIMITED, UNIT G10, LOCK VIEW, LOWFIELDS BUSINESS PARK, ELLAND, HX5 9HD
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between SHIPLEY and CROSS GREEN given service number 60/60A effective from 26-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
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Post by SF07 on Apr 1, 2015 18:50:03 GMT 1
I read the booklet and it surprised me that the 173A, 174A & 175A are gunna be run by First? Is this Right? Metro have updated their Changing Times booklet and the services are now listed as being operated by Arriva. |
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Post by deerfold on Apr 1, 2015 20:48:56 GMT 1
Both First & Transdev have realised that running dead along the full route is sometimes daft so some currently dead runs are made into advertised services. Transdev? I wish they would. There's out of service journeys run past my house in both directions at least half an hour before the real service starts. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 1, 2015 21:15:25 GMT 1
The extra 760 is the one I was meaning, at the moment it runs dead all the way from Leeds at 10am-ish.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 1, 2015 22:50:01 GMT 1
All the new timetables for the Yorkshire Tiger changes in Leeds and Halifax, particularly the new 59 & 60 services are now on the Yorkshire Tiger website
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 1, 2015 23:36:23 GMT 1
The new routing of the 60 makes it a lot more comparable for speed, still a little longer, against the 760 between Shipley, Thackley, Greengates and Leeds, looks like a good move to me.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 1, 2015 23:53:44 GMT 1
ooh just realised 60 is a bit like 760 - will passengers use it as a through service to Leeds?
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 2, 2015 8:58:00 GMT 1
I live on the route, I wouldn't have used it when is was 80 minutes to Leeds but now it's only 61 compared to about 50 on the 760 I'm much more likely to catch it now, especially as most of the day it will now leave Shipley on the hour so it will fall nicely between the .16 and .46 760 departures.
Don't know about single/return tickets but the Tiger day ticket is 40p more than the K Day (apart from before 9.30) so that goes against it.
From a vehicle point of view I'm more likely to go for the Tempo, Omnicity, Gemini, maybe not the Solo or ALX400, which currently turns up on the 62 rather than 15 years old Presidents and Renowns which Transdev usually serve up, to be fair they do seem to have their newest Eclipse's on the 760 quite regularly as well.
Of course from Shipley town centre the train beats any bus hands down, but for the folk who live off Leeds Road between Carnegie and Calverley I could see Tiger taking some trade from Transdev, especially if the quicker times are advertised locally.
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Post by Burnside on Apr 2, 2015 13:49:33 GMT 1
The changes to the 33,33a and x33. Metro say x33 withdrawn, 33 every 10 minutes between Leeds and Guiseley and 33a every 20 minutes between Leeds and Otley. I presume what they actually mean is a bus every 10 minutes as far as Guiseley with alternate journeys continuing to Otley?
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Post by SF07 on Apr 2, 2015 17:50:39 GMT 1
The changes to the 33,33a and x33. Metro say x33 withdrawn, 33 every 10 minutes between Leeds and Guiseley and 33a every 20 minutes between Leeds and Otley. I presume what they actually mean is a bus every 10 minutes as far as Guiseley with alternate journeys continuing to Otley? Would appear that way looking on the Metro Journey Planner website. Looking at times after 25 April, the 33 leaves Leeds at xx05, xx25 and xx45 to Guiseley, while the 33A leaves at xx15, xx35 and xx55 to Otley. |
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Post by SF07 on Apr 2, 2015 18:00:18 GMT 1
All the new timetables for the Yorkshire Tiger changes in Leeds and Halifax, particularly the new 59 & 60 services are now on the Yorkshire Tiger website The new timetables showing which journeys are funded by Metro and which are run commercially. On the theme of running dead, it would appear that as well as running journeys between Halifax and Elland on the 501, Yorkshire Tiger are running some extra 537 evening journeys from Huddersfield to Elland. yorkshiretiger.co.uk/uploads/536_537_260415.pdf |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 2, 2015 18:16:32 GMT 1
They've also changed the early morning Outlane to Huddersfield bus to start back from Elland and also run earlier so it can presumably then pick up the 343, previously it arrived just after the first 343 had left which must have resulted in 3 lots of dead running.
All makes sense now the 536/537 are run from Elland, I expect when the previous timetables were done they were still based on Huddersfield running them.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Apr 2, 2015 20:23:08 GMT 1
They've also changed the early morning Outlane to Huddersfield bus to start back from Elland and also run earlier so it can presumably then pick up the 343, previously it arrived just after the first 343 had left which must have resulted in 3 lots of dead running. All makes sense now the 536/537 are run from Elland, I expect when the previous timetables were done they were still based on Huddersfield running them. That trip is still run by Waterloo at present, running onto the 0625 231 Mondays-Fridays. |
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Apr 2, 2015 20:25:48 GMT 1
All the new timetables for the Yorkshire Tiger changes in Leeds and Halifax, particularly the new 59 & 60 services are now on the Yorkshire Tiger website The new timetables showing which journeys are funded by Metro and which are run commercially. On the theme of running dead, it would appear that as well as running journeys between Halifax and Elland on the 501, Yorkshire Tiger are running some extra 537 evening journeys from Huddersfield to Elland. yorkshiretiger.co.uk/uploads/536_537_260415.pdfOnly additional journey appears to be the 2322 ex Huddersfield. I wonder how the 547 will operate, as that used to run off the 1800 ex Halifax 536. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 2, 2015 20:50:41 GMT 1
Possibly off the last 343 instead?
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Post by rwilkes on Apr 10, 2015 8:30:16 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on Apr 20, 2015 18:39:04 GMT 1
PB0001748/110 - KEIGHLEY & DISTRICT TRAVEL LTD, PROSPECT PARK, BROUGHTON WAY, STARBECK, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Keighley Bus Station
Finish Point: Keighley Asda Store
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Service Number: 718
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 27-APR-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday Every 20 minutes off peak
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Post by whereami on Apr 20, 2015 20:36:26 GMT 1
255 times will be amended, as we don't need 11 minutes to get from Cleckheaton Bus Station to Whitcliffe Mount School, 6 minutes in fine, only the 1438 out of Cleckheaton needs that 11 minutes, cos it waits for the kids, plus, there's a morning 255 that starts at Wyke 0625 arrives at Cleck 0640, and departs 0648, and then gets 6 minutes to Birkenshaw Bar. It turns out, the revised times on the 255, are only the early morning one, that only got 6 minutes to get from Cleckheaton to Birkenshaw, this will now get it's usual 11minutes. The service will still get 11 minutes from Cleckheaton to Whitcliffe, and still a 1 minute turnaround at Halifax. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 20, 2015 20:43:05 GMT 1
Can't understand why they've suddenly gone for this 1 min turnaround at Halifax recently when they had 10-15 mins previously. It's almost like someone made a mistake when drawing up the timetable and nobody has noticed.
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