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Post by nick on Mar 23, 2008 11:55:40 GMT 1
Why was the bradford region never concidered for the MCW Metrobus? I think it would of suited the region on long inter-urban routes 622/623 and 626 spring to mind!!!
And why was there never a link with skipton from bradford like there is with leeds? OK yes you do have the 662 but you have to swap at the Bus Station to hop onto the 66 and you have to pay another fair so why was it never considered.
Bradford Interchange-Shipley-Bingley-Keighley Bus Station-Sutton-Cross Hills-Skipton would of been the perfect route. I dont know what service number maybe a X53 or X653 would spring to mind!!
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Post by jml8371 on Mar 23, 2008 12:32:17 GMT 1
The MCW was considered for Bradford & Huddersfield at 1 point (7563 did work out of Huddersfield for a few weeks, when almost new), but because of the hills in the area, they were deemed not suitable, as they were not brilliant on hills.
The Bradford->Skipton service I'm not sure about, but it could be that it was deemed as not needed.
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Post by Anthony on Mar 23, 2008 12:38:03 GMT 1
There did used to be a direct service from Bradford to Skipton - services 666, 667 and 668. (669 used to run Bradford to Crosshills I think).
At the same time 663/664/665 used to run from Oxenhope/Stanbury/Oakworth right through to Keighley too.
This meant that the Keighley to Bradford section was numbered 663/4/5/6/7/8/9.
As far as I know the route was split up - and 662 Bradford to Keighley only - was created to help reliability, so the Bradford to Keighley portion could keep better time.
Not quite sure exactly when this happened, but think it was early 1990's.
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Post by nick on Mar 23, 2008 12:53:39 GMT 1
but because of the hills in the area, they were deemed not suitable, as they were not brilliant on hills. So if they deemed unsuitable on hills why did First Leeds put them on the 96/96A because silk mill drive is one of the steepist hills in north west leeds.
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Post by Craig on Mar 23, 2008 15:12:27 GMT 1
I know the rail service didn't used to be so frequent, but as we now have a half-hourly fast electric route between Bradford and Skipton along virtually the same route, a bus version would seem a little superfluous.
True about Silk Mill Drive, although it only takes 2 mins to clear so its hardly expecting a lot of a Metrobus.
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Post by riclam on Mar 23, 2008 15:28:30 GMT 1
metrobuses have corrosion problems just like the metropolitan though not as bad, it would not be wise therefore to use metrobuses in bradford after experiance with metropolitans also they struggle with hills its a known fact
the skipton - bradford route went round mid-late 90s when the route to haworth was severed at keighley, a strange idea but nevermind
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Post by jackh on Mar 23, 2008 16:02:08 GMT 1
I mean look at HJC's Metrorusters on the 509 they stuggle when lightly loaded leaving Halifax towards Bradford past Shibdon Park etc.
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Post by simon on Mar 23, 2008 17:08:37 GMT 1
yeah i heard that the hill thing was a problem with metrobuses .amazingly though metrobuses appeared in halifax and huddersfield later on which i would of thought was a very hilly area ,did these ex london/leicester metrobuses have diff gearing anyone know?
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Post by riclam on Mar 23, 2008 17:21:05 GMT 1
yeah i heard that the hill thing was a problem with metrobuses .amazingly though metrobuses appeared in halifax and huddersfield later on which i would of thought was a very hilly area ,did these ex london/leicester metrobuses have diff gearing anyone know? dont think so, they all had same voith gearbox i think, they were so slow on hills round huddersfield, god knows how HJCs manages to get up ainleys bypass in elland
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Post by m60800 on Mar 23, 2008 18:06:32 GMT 1
......mid-late 90s when the route to haworth was severed at keighley, a strange idea but nevermind I agree it was a strange idea, to cut the direct link from Bradford, to this tourist destination! Why not divert the 697's into Haworth itself, perhaps at weekends?
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Post by simon on Mar 23, 2008 18:33:17 GMT 1
ainley top,now there is a test been up there on many different vehicles but never an mcw, i remember about 20 years ago taking 6337 on a 504 service i thought we were never going to reach the top .
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Post by riclam on Mar 23, 2008 22:03:46 GMT 1
......mid-late 90s when the route to haworth was severed at keighley, a strange idea but nevermind I agree it was a strange idea, to cut the direct link from Bradford, to this tourist destination! Why not divert the 697's into Haworth itself, perhaps at weekends? they could do, strangley enough at about half 5 at night the 698 goes to oxenhope!
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Post by m60800 on Mar 23, 2008 22:14:08 GMT 1
I agree it was a strange idea, to cut the direct link from Bradford, to this tourist destination! Why not divert the 697's into Haworth itself, perhaps at weekends? they could do, strangley enough at about half 5 at night the 698 goes to oxenhope! A bit of an anecdote about that....the other week the 621 to Bierley came in at 1726, but it said Haworth Rd on the blind. A man hurried up asking for Haworth, saying that he had to be there for 1830. What a stroke of luck for him in that I was able to direct him to that once a day 698 service!
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Mar 23, 2008 23:08:24 GMT 1
following deregThere was a direct 698\699 hourly daytime service with a 2 hourly Summer Sunday service. these became 696\697 journeys
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Post by nick on Mar 24, 2008 12:14:58 GMT 1
Where did leeds MCW Metrobuses go???
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Post by riclam on Mar 24, 2008 14:37:05 GMT 1
Where did leeds MCW Metrobuses go??? scrap mostly, some to glasgow and oldham then scrap and 2 to indianoesia or however u spell it! 1 Mk1 metrobus is preserved at keighley, 7505
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Post by simon on Mar 24, 2008 14:52:20 GMT 1
de-reg saw 7512,13,14,15,17,18,19,39,40 all withdrawn and sold off to stevensons and london transport except 7514 which was sold to a group who would use it to promote a trade union.7516,26,48 and 59 had been destroyed in the torre rd fire some years earlier when only a couple of years old. accidents then claimed a couple of the mk 1 s early on, the ones left of that batch heading for mtl liverpool to compete in the bus wars in that city. approx 17 wer transfered to gm buses although 2 or 3 returned a few years later of note was that the only 2 alexander bodied ones were included in the deal.at this time normal life expired withdrawls started to take place,these been a bit premature down to the corrosion problems experienced at the rear,a handful had been rebuilt earlier on in their lives.the 7581-7605 batch which were some years newer soldiered on been transfered away to other parts of the first empire including glasgow and again manchester.forgot to mention some more mk 2s were lost in the second torre rd fire.as far as i know only 7505,12 and 14 still exist in the uk think poss 1 or 2 of the f-xwy batch were dispatched to thailand as part of the tsunami disaster appeal
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Post by nick on Mar 26, 2008 9:18:44 GMT 1
Is the 96 going to be changing the fleet anytime soon. I heard that the dual doors are going to be taken of and replaced by Volvo B7TL'S? Answer are greatley appreciated!!
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Post by jack97 on Mar 26, 2008 9:22:56 GMT 1
when the mcw left leeds a few went to manchester some abroad and the rest scattered aroud or scrapped. As for the dual doors i think they will be around for a couple of more years they have only just got re-painted and have had there stop moved in the bus station so doubt they would do all this if they were to get rid of them!!!
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Post by kendall17 on Mar 26, 2008 14:02:45 GMT 1
anyone know what happened to A549 KUM (the YR model) ??
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Post by riclam on Mar 26, 2008 23:29:11 GMT 1
anyone know what happened to A549 KUM (the YR model) ?? It was scrapped some time ago I think by First Leeds.
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Post by jml8371 on Mar 28, 2008 3:44:02 GMT 1
Is the 96 going to be changing the fleet anytime soon. I heard that the dual doors are going to be taken of and replaced by Volvo B7TL'S? Answer are greatley appreciated!! Alledged to be getting replaced by Volvo B7TL Dual doorrs ex London!!!
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Post by nick on Mar 28, 2008 18:15:37 GMT 1
Low floor for the mums and Senior Citizens. So where will teh current Volvo Olympians Go. I think they will be dedicated (if we get the Dual Door B7TL'S) on the 28,X84,46,33/33A and 97 Routes!!
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Post by jackh on Mar 28, 2008 22:52:06 GMT 1
Low floor for the mums and Senior Citizens. So where will teh current Volvo Olympians Go. I think they will be dedicated (if we get the Dual Door B7TL'S) on the 28,X84,46,33/33A and 97 Routes!! I don't think they will be used on the X84 and 33/33A as you no they are not supposed to be allocated to those routes are they! And why is it that!!!?
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Post by nick on Apr 11, 2008 20:32:05 GMT 1
Which routes do the Roayles Of Bradford appear on. They have them but i never see them on routes which would be deemed suited for the Royale. IE 670/653/15/72(OCCASIONALLY)?
If they appear on this then it is in-frequent
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