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Post by northerner on May 11, 2014 19:28:46 GMT 1
Unfortunately Transdev are usually very poor at communicating service changes, often leaving it until less than a week until the timetables are posted online. However, if you use the Traveline journey planner it is currently showing journeys up until June 6th. It looks like the frequency between Leeds and York is being reduced to every 20 minutes, but with all journeys operating via Cross Gates and Seacroft. It also looks like all journeys are running through to at least Malton
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Post by SF07 on May 12, 2014 18:51:31 GMT 1
There was a cancellation for the 844 on VOSA for 24 May 2014, which would indicate the 844 is being withdrawn:
PB0001873/24 - YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD, PROSPECT PARK, STARBECK, HARROGATE, HG2 7NY Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Heworth Ualtres Road York and Leeds given service number 844/743 effective from 24-May-2014.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 14, 2014 18:16:54 GMT 1
New timetable is now on the Coastliner website. Confirms every 20 minute service via Seacroft on 840/843 route to Malton, with hourly extensions to Scarborough/Thornton le Dale with occasional journeys to Whitby and Bridlington as normal.
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on May 14, 2014 19:09:48 GMT 1
Noticed the X45 has been dropped for this Summer and the last few journeys from the Coast towards Leeds seem to be running earlier or terminating at Malton rather than York and Tadcaster. Noticed their is a late working from York to Tadcaster to compensate.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 14, 2014 20:48:58 GMT 1
I've worked out PVR to be 20, although it might be less before 30th June.
With the fleet expected to be 411-429, 1837 & 1839, that is only 21 buses, so I'm expecting at least 2 more buses to be transferred to Malton. If its the Coastliner Renowns, or even if it isn't, we are talking buses that are at least 12 years old, which is ancient for Malton.
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Post by SF07 on May 22, 2014 9:50:16 GMT 1
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Post by stevieinselby on May 24, 2014 14:35:52 GMT 1
New timetable is now on the Coastliner website. Confirms every 20 minute service via Seacroft on 840/843 route to Malton, with hourly extensions to Scarborough/Thornton le Dale with occasional journeys to Whitby and Bridlington as normal. Except that the service to Scarbados and Thornton-le-Dale is not hourly. The 843 has several gaps of 1½–2 hours, and even after the end of June when the full service kicks in, the 840 has plenty of gaps of well over an hour. Despite the increased frequency between York and Malton, the peak network sees a reduction in mileage of about 14% compared with the summer 2013 timetable (even discounting the section of route between York and Heslington (mainly because I forgot to count it and couldn't be bothered to go back)). Scarborough sees 5 buses fewer on every weekday, Whitby and TLD lose one each.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 27, 2014 19:10:37 GMT 1
Can people keep their eyes out to see how far East the single decks get to.
So far I've seen one on the 840 to Thornton le Dale, but none to the coast as yet.
There are some quite light duties that only run as far as Malton which I'm hoping they will generally be used on.
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Post by andyk4050 on May 27, 2014 19:21:29 GMT 1
Can people keep their eyes out to see how far East the single decks get to. So far I've seen one on the 840 to Thornton le Dale, but none to the coast as yet. There are some quite light duties that only run as far as Malton which I'm hoping they will generally be used on. They haven't got the small Desti format for the singles so they've put the larger font for the deckers on it and it looks silly coz you can only see the 8
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Post by SCH117X on May 27, 2014 23:10:11 GMT 1
Statements on twitter "Due to low passenger numbers and in an effort to improve reliability all services now run via Seacroft"
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Post by stevieinselby on May 28, 2014 20:28:22 GMT 1
Can people keep their eyes out to see how far East the single decks get to. So far I've seen one on the 840 to Thornton le Dale, but none to the coast as yet. There are some quite light duties that only run as far as Malton which I'm hoping they will generally be used on. There was a B7RLE on the 1541 ex TLD today, which was looking pretty cosy inside as it came through York in the evening peak... Assuming buses have more than 6 minutes layover in Leeds, that bus was on a Malton run the time before.
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Post by jdodger08 on May 29, 2014 13:21:36 GMT 1
I thought the 844 was doing well, it always seemed to be quite busy passing through Cross Gates and Colton. It was the only frequent service to serve Thorpe Park Business Estate as well and I never understood why they didn't have a service passing through for the A.M peak. I had to work there for a week a couple of months ago and had to rely on Arriva's 163/6 then walk through the park and then sit and watch all day as it passed through, also the park is about to get bigger with development in the pipelines at the moment. Maybe the reduction is coming because they reduced Leeds ticket prices? There seems to be a war on pricess in Leeds at the moment, with Arriva's Urban tickets being £4 and the Transdev offering a similar thing.
What I am waiting to see is if First will bring back their old(ish) x64 service... the economy is on the upswing and they said they may look into it when things get better.
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Post by stevieinselby on May 29, 2014 14:14:01 GMT 1
What I am waiting to see is if First will bring back their old(ish) x64 service... the economy is on the upswing and they said they may look into it when things get better. Highly unlikely – while the national economy may be on the upswing, as far as bus companies are concerned it is still heading downwards, and the pitiful ENCTS income is sealing the fate for a lot of buses that used to be viable. Transdev certainly don't think there is anything to be gained from running faster buses. After trialling running the off-peak 840 and 843 on a faster route, missing out Copmanthorpe and Woodlands, they knocked that on the head at the start of the winter timetable last year, so they can't have been getting enough extra custom from the speeded-up journeys to justify it.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 29, 2014 17:21:32 GMT 1
Running to/from Malton should increase reliability as well, as with two separate routes they'd get delayed in different places so they would end up running together. The 844 would get delayed coming into York which doesn't effect the bus coming in from the opposite side from the coast so they'd end up leaving for Leeds together. Or alternatively there would be delays from the coast that wouldn't effect the 844.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on May 29, 2014 18:19:36 GMT 1
Running to/from Malton should increase reliability as well, as with two separate routes they'd get delayed in different places so they would end up running together. The 844 would get delayed coming into York which doesn't effect the bus coming in from the opposite side from the coast so they'd end up leaving for Leeds together. Or alternatively there would be delays from the coast that wouldn't effect the 844. Or create more unreliability, when a problem between York & Malton delays buses between York & Leeds - at least when the 844 ran, any problems around Hopgrove roundabout would only affect the 840-843, and the 844 could still provide a half hourly service to Leeds
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 29, 2014 18:51:33 GMT 1
They would at least all be delayed equally. Coastliner don't use the Hopgrove roundabout by the way as they run via Stockton on the Forest
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Post by stevieinselby on May 29, 2014 23:19:22 GMT 1
They would at least all be delayed equally. Coastliner don't use the Hopgrove roundabout by the way as they run via Stockton on the Forest It isn't unknown for problems at the Hopgrove roundabout to cause queues stretching waaaay beyond the Hazelbush crossroads!
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Post by hstjohnny on May 30, 2014 15:06:07 GMT 1
Saw one of the B7RLE's heading past yesterday bound for Scarborough fairly full, Desti blind Non-DDA, messed up and only just readable. Are Transdev trying to detract passengers?
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Post by gaz6371 on Jun 1, 2014 11:57:20 GMT 1
rumour has it that 2 B10's stored at burnley are been spruced up for use at malton to arrive 9/6/14... muted to be 1051 and 1059.....
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Post by andyk4050 on Jun 1, 2014 12:09:09 GMT 1
rumour has it that 2 B10's stored at burnley are been spruced up for use at malton to arrive 9/6/14... muted to be 1051 and 1059..... Won't it be best for 1015 and not 1051 because 1051 is all spruced up for the university runs
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 1, 2014 14:08:52 GMT 1
1015 & 1059 are the two that are in store at the moment, so I expect they meant those ones.
I did wonder what they were going to draft in, as they are running a PVR of 19 with 21 buses at the moment which is not enough spares.
A 13 year old B10BLE being allocated to Malton is a particular low point in Transdev's ownership of Blazefield.
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Post by timelesstable on Jun 1, 2014 14:44:16 GMT 1
I did wonder what they were going to draft in, as they are running a PVR of 19 with 21 buses at the moment which is not enough spares. A 13 year old B10BLE being allocated to Malton is a particular low point in Transdev's ownership of Blazefield. Increasing to 23 to cover for a PVR of only 19 is a spares % well over 20% bit excessive maybe. The 13 year old bus might become the norm given the way NYCC treat bus operators!
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 1, 2014 15:57:31 GMT 1
I think it goes up to 20 when the High Summer journeys start.
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Post by gaz6371 on Jun 1, 2014 16:36:20 GMT 1
rumour has it that 2 B10's stored at burnley are been spruced up for use at malton to arrive 9/6/14... muted to be 1015 and 1059.....
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Post by stevieinselby on Sept 20, 2014 14:43:10 GMT 1
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