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Post by titan1641 on Jan 28, 2016 14:24:22 GMT 1
You obviously aren't very observant otherwise you'd know that the 22 is operating until 19/2/16 so it's no wonder you saw the service this morning. Talk about trying to make a mountain out of a molehill....... ? As for your comment about "Joe Public", you stated that Squarepeg had announced there cessation of route 22 on Twitter, and as I stated, anyone who follows them on Twitter would know they had other interests apart from their route 22 which is the only route they announced on Twitter as being cancelled. Try to keep up...........
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Post by kommie123 on Jan 28, 2016 14:29:09 GMT 1
Not making a mountain out of a molehill. My initial comment was warranted and based on a logical assumption. Thats it. Instead I got ridiculed by bus spotters. Also the twitter reference was from a screenshot.
I would try to keep up but Im not a bus spotter.
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Post by mk2mcw on Jan 28, 2016 14:49:45 GMT 1
im sorry to see the 22 go its a good bus service i saw on their twitter page they have had at least 1 incident of vandalism i hope they try again with public bus services....
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Post by mk2mcw on Jan 28, 2016 14:53:11 GMT 1
im sorry to see the 22 go its a good bus service i saw on their twitter page they have had at least 1 incident of vandalism i hope they try again with public bus services.... i had an idea for a bus route myself it would run from tadcaster to leeds via garforth via either selby road or cross gates and serve lotherton hall on sundays it would more or less follow coastliner from tadcaster to bramham crossroads then aberford to leeds via 401 route and terminate at infirmary street i would have numbered it 741.
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Post by titan1641 on Jan 28, 2016 14:56:37 GMT 1
Not making a mountain out of a molehill. My initial comment was warranted and based on a logical assumption. Thats it. Instead I got ridiculed by bus spotters. Also the twitter reference was from a screenshot. I would try to keep up but Im not a bus spotter. Firstly, your comment was not warranted or based on a logical assumption. Secondly, if you're not a bus spotter, why are you a member of this forum??
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Post by gooderson1 on Jan 28, 2016 15:09:19 GMT 1
I could not agree more with the comments made by titan1641. IF kommie123 is not an enthusiast then why is he on this forum
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Post by mk2mcw on Jan 28, 2016 18:06:29 GMT 1
I could not agree more with the comments made by titan1641. IF kommie123 is not an enthusiast then why is he on this forum funny you should say that mate i was thinking the same thing........the star wars forum is next door......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 19:18:26 GMT 1
from the horse's mouth, the 22 service isn't viable. Although numbers are increasing, and although the Kippax extension is proving worthwhile, the numbers are not enough to warrant the expense of the service, not at the moment at least.
We have no intention of running in competition with other operators, we aren't in the business just to take passengers off other buses, we operate a service that didn't operate before. That said, I don't feel we lost out to anyone, it wasn't a competition to win passengers and make other services fail.
To run buses all day places a great toll on them, the spectra's although good buses, aren't up to running 10 hours per day. The service needs newer vehicles, and whilst we could happily meet that cost if the numbers justified it, the fact remains that they don't.
The original 22 service fitted in around our school contracts. The revenue was enough to meet the costs, but not enough to justify DDA buses. The school runs won't need to be DDA so in time it wouldn't be possible to use a school bus on the 22.
Running the service 22 has taught us a lot, it is not the end, however it is daft to keep up a service that won't pay, otherwise we will end up like the other operators who went to the wall.
The smashed windows in Kippax were the last straw really. After starting the service on Jan 11th, it was obvious that the extra hours in the morning and in the evening were a waste of time, so it was decided to vary the service to remove them and retain a service starting at 9.30 as before but finishing at 5pm. However, after the vandalism it was decided that this wasn't a worthwhile project and so it was decided to cancel.
For the last Saturday, we're considering duplicating the solo with something a bit more interesting, any requests?
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Post by andyk4050 on Jan 28, 2016 20:12:03 GMT 1
Could we have one of the Ex Geldards Scanias or one of the T reg Low Floor DAF Alx400s
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Post by Burnside on Jan 28, 2016 23:01:09 GMT 1
Right.
Firstly, while everyone has the right to their own opinion, please try to keep it friendly. Some of the comments above are uncalled for.
Secondly, Sqrpeg, thank you for the info (straight from the horses mouth, so to speak). It's a shame the 22 isn't viable, but it's sensible not to continue and create problems further down the road. I wish you the best of luck for the future.
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Post by gooderson1 on Jan 28, 2016 23:30:08 GMT 1
I agreed with Tim(moderator) ii is a shame that route 22 was not viable and could not comment nine.
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Post by gooderson1 on Jan 28, 2016 23:32:42 GMT 1
Oops sorry should read "could not continue". It is a case of fat fingers using an iPad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 11:06:18 GMT 1
Its a shame that its not viable but at least you are wise enough to realize this unlike some certain other local operators...best of luck for the future and lets hope you will be back on public service in the near future!
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Post by rst1987 on Jan 29, 2016 17:44:55 GMT 1
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 31, 2016 21:37:34 GMT 1
I felt like going to Rothwell on February 27th, so that I could ride route 9 having been on the 444 there twice. However, I may well prioritise Squarepeg route 22 while I can! I hope both buses that day will be Spectras.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Feb 28, 2016 22:23:13 GMT 1
I did indeed go to Rothwell as planned yesterday. I admit to not knowing the area well and expected route 9 from Horsforth to call at Morrisons. I had a bad feeling it had by-passed this stop, then next thing I knew I saw a 446 bus just up the road! I had planned to catch route 22 from Rothwell to Crossgates or Seacroft, but checked the timetable, quickly got off the 9 and soon caught route 22 back to Rothwell. Passenger numbers were negligible, but it was a refreshing alternative to the main operators.
I now realise I probably misjudged the bus stops in the Rothwell area.
Due to all double-deckers having to be DDA compliant by the beginning of next year, it is going to mean a lot to me to have used a step 'decker (Spectra 636) in 2016!
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Post by tinrocket on Mar 4, 2016 19:53:53 GMT 1
Latest news in Garforth is the 22 has a reprieve until July after pressure from a local councillor to keep it running. The off-peak and Saturday journeys are withdrawn as planned but the route is unchanged.
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Mar 4, 2016 20:04:14 GMT 1
Wouldn't these useless councillors be so much better putting their pressure on useless nightmare brats of chavs who are part responsible for this route making big losses? When it comes to crime, your local councillor can't be seen, however when it comes to minor things like a bus service cut or a leisure centre closure their all over it like a bad rash!
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Mar 30, 2016 18:29:47 GMT 1
According to the latest WYICA papers for Leeds sub committee, the 22 is currently being supported until July where it will be considered as part of the next Leeds Bus Review.
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Post by kommie123 on Mar 31, 2016 12:02:45 GMT 1
What is their actual timetable?? In addition, maybe if the drivers actually stopped for passengers, they may make more money. I've seen passengers put their arms out only for the driver to shake their head and keep driving. Both buses were in service and are supposed to stop there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 17:01:41 GMT 1
What is their actual timetable?? In addition, maybe if the drivers actually stopped for passengers, they may make more money. I've seen passengers put their arms out only for the driver to shake their head and keep driving. Both buses were in service and are supposed to stop there. the timetable, or lack of it is a Metro issue, I would be surprised to hear that the drivers are intentionally driving past passengers.
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Post by kommie123 on Mar 31, 2016 18:39:37 GMT 1
Approx 0830 yesterday at cross gates station, bus said 22 Rothwell, someone put their arm out and it went past.
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Post by andyk4050 on Mar 31, 2016 19:14:30 GMT 1
Approx 0830 yesterday at cross gates station, bus said 22 Rothwell, someone put their arm out and it went past. That's strange coz they don't start till 09:30
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Post by kommie123 on Mar 31, 2016 19:26:30 GMT 1
Yeah metro site says the same. What a confused mess.
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Post by andyk4050 on Mar 31, 2016 19:28:09 GMT 1
Yeah metro site says the same. What a confused mess. Bet the driver put the Desti up too early by sounds of things
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