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Post by davep on Apr 6, 2013 12:27:52 GMT 1
Does anyone have an accurate list of West Riding and Yorkshire Woollen bus routes from 1960 to 2013 I have seached for these but have not been able to find any ,apart frpm the ones I can remember.
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Post by angrycommuter on Apr 10, 2013 13:25:50 GMT 1
Ones I remember from late 80's/90's are:
201 Leeds to Huddersfield via 202 route mostly, but Church Lane and Lee Green in Mirfield and Keldregate in Bradley. 204 I think this was a Batley to Dewsbury service with a roundabout route via Dewsbury Hospital. 205 Was Pudsey to Huddersfield via current Longstaff rout to Mirfield then 203 route to Hudds via Keldregate 206 Ron Lyles Whitley to Dewsbury but also Pudsey to Huddersfield 207 Leeds to Huddersfield via 201 route to Saville Arms (Mirfield), the Kitson Hill Road and Keldregate 207/208 Whitley / Grange Moor to Dewsbury 210 Was Huddersfield to Leeds via the large estate near Tingley where the 117 now goes. 211 Mirfield to Leeds via 210 route 212 Huddersfield to Batley via Mirfield 213 Ouzelwell to Fieldhead/Batley 214 Ouzelwell to Fieldhead/Batley 215 Ouzelwell to Fieldhead/Batley 216 Old Taylors/K-Line service Overton to Leeds 217 Huddersfield to Leeds via Keldregate, Mirfield, Norristhorpe, Heck'wike, Birstall, Gildersome. 218 Huddersfield to Leeds via Leeds Road, Hartshead, Cleck, Gomersal, Birstall, Morley, White Rose. 219 Huddersfield to Leeds via Keldregate, Mirfield, Norristhorpe, Heck'wike, Birstall, Gildersome. 221 Huddersfield to Leeds via Keldregate, Roberttown, Heck'wike, Birstall, Gildersome. 223 Halifax to Leeds via Cleck, Birkenshaw, Drighlington. Was Yorkshire Rider operated for a while 224 Halifax to Leeds via Cleck, Birkenshaw, Drighlington. Was Yorkshire Rider operated for a while 225 Brighouse to Leeds via Cleck, Birkenshaw, Drighlington. 226 Halifax to Leeds via Cleck, Birstall, Morley, White Rose 227 Halifax to Leeds via Cleck, Birstall, Morley, White Rose 228 Dewsbury to Leeds via Batley, Morley, White Rose 230 Dewsbury to Rothwell 240 Batley Bus Company(?) service to Sheffield via Huddersfield 250 Bradford to Wakefield via current 253 route 251 Dewsbury to Bradford via Batley 252 Dewsbury to Bradford via Batley 256 Dewsbury to Bradford via Heck'wike, Liversedge, Cleck 257 Bradford to Wakefield via current 253 route except in Mirfield where it went via 202 route from Saville Arms to Knowle 258 Bradford to Wakefield via current 253 route except in Mirfield where it went via 202 route from Saville Arms to Knowle 259 Dewsbury to Bradford via Heck'wike 261 Yorkshire Traction Hudds to Dewsbury via Lepton, Flockton , Emley etc. 269 Dewsbury to Bradford 272 Dewsbury to Shaw Cross 274 Dewsbury to Heckmondwike 279 Wakefield to Halifax 280 Huddersfield to Wakefield via 203 route to Mirfield, then Longstaff route to Dewsbury then to Wakefield as per current 253 284 Dewsbury to Birstall Jct 27 X22 Leeds to Huddersfield X26 Wakefield to Huddersfield X33 Sheffield to Bradford X61 Stagecoach Hudds to Leeds via Leeds Road X62 Stagecoach Hudds to Leeds via 262 route
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Post by clifton on Apr 11, 2013 19:07:20 GMT 1
X19 / X21 Hudds to Leeds. Using all those DP Tigers & Leopards that Heckmondwike had, happy days!
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Post by tinrocket on Apr 13, 2013 9:04:37 GMT 1
230 Dewsbury to Rothwell sounds interesting, similar to the old 131/231?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2013 9:54:23 GMT 1
Some old timetables in Huddersfield Central Library reference section. Many changes through the years, I'm sure the former Yorkshire Woollen routes must hold some sort of record for number of changes!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2013 12:23:18 GMT 1
I only remember the routes into Bradford, but not sure of the dates.
4/4A later 4/4B then 604/603 became 251/252 Dewsbury-Bradford (direct) joint service
X33 Sheffield-Batley-Bradford X34 Sheffield-Wakey-Bradford (direct) joint services 256 Dewsbury-Bradford (Chester St) via Dewsbury Moor to Hecky then present 268 via Little Horton
60/260: X60 Huddersfield-Bradford via East Bierley
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Post by kaytown on Apr 13, 2013 15:15:16 GMT 1
129 Knottingley England Lane-Carleton Glen. 151 Castleford-Glasshoughton-Airedale-Ferry Fryston. 152 Leeds-Castleford-Pontefract-Doncaster. 153 Leeds-Castleford-Pontefract-Knottingley-Goole.154 Pontefract-Toll Hill-Airedale-Castleford. 157 Castleford-Altofts 169 Leeds-Swillington-Castleford-Fryston Village. 179 Castleford-Featherstone-Pontefract-Willow Park. 180/1 Castleford-Normanton-Featherstone-Castleford (circular). 183 Leeds-Methley-Castleford-Featherstone-South Elmsall. 190 Pontefract-Ackworth-Hemsworth-South Elmsall. 192 Pontefract-Ferrybridge-Byram Park. 193 Pontefract-Tadcaster. 199 Pontefract-Airedale-Fryston-Castleford.
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Post by Craig on Apr 13, 2013 20:21:15 GMT 1
230 Dewsbury to Rothwell sounds interesting, similar to the old 131/231? It ran alongside the 212 to give a combined half-hourly service. Same route as 212 (with a few deviations along the way) as far as West Ardsley then along the current 153 to Rothwell. It was operated by Black Prince for a time as was the 204 from Batley to Morley via Scotchman Lane (the current daytime 221 route). As an aside the 131/231 you mention ran Morley to Rothwell and were replacements for the former 428/429 service and also the 424/752 Black Prince routes.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 14, 2013 10:10:16 GMT 1
There was a 257 which ran Dewsbury to Brighouse at one time, around the mid 90s. I think it went via Heckmondwike.
The 25x routes were really complicated, in the later 90s/early 00s, You had the 250/253/257/258 doing various variants of what is now the 253. The 254/255/256/259 doing various routes between Dewsbury and Heckmondwike and then beyond to either Leeds or Bradford, basically what is now just the 254.
Before the 227 became a variant of the 226, in the early/mid 90s I think it was a variant of the 225. So you had the 223/224/225/227 running hourly each between Leeds and Cleckheaton, I think it went to Brighouse with the 225 at that time going to Elland.
Yorkshire Woollen's problem being that their area is in the middle of the county, so they try to serve everywhere with buses going to everywhere, as someone in Heckmondwike may have links to Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield etc.
The network in Leeds for example is much simpler as most areas have a bus to Leeds and that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 19:11:07 GMT 1
There was a 257 which ran Dewsbury to Brighouse at one time, around the mid 90s. I think it went via Heckmondwike. The 25x routes were really complicated, in the later 90s/early 00s, You had the 250/253/257/258 doing various variants of what is now the 253. The 254/255/256/259 doing various routes between Dewsbury and Heckmondwike and then beyond to either Leeds or Bradford, basically what is now just the 254. Before the 227 became a variant of the 226, in the early/mid 90s I think it was a variant of the 225. So you had the 223/224/225/227 running hourly each between Leeds and Cleckheaton, I think it went to Brighouse with the 225 at that time going to Elland. Yorkshire Woollen's problem being that their area is in the middle of the county, so they try to serve everywhere with buses going to everywhere, as someone in Heckmondwike may have links to Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield etc. The network in Leeds for example is much simpler as most areas have a bus to Leeds and that's it. 225 had many terminating points during its time,at some point or other it terminated at Brighouse,Elland,West Vale,Halifax & for a short time 1 trip extended from Elland to Stainland! i think one of the 250/3/6/7/8 also served Fieldhead alongside 281 - went up Gelderd Rd & down via estate from Birstall Market Pl towards bradford.Think there was 251/2 what also served different parts of 253 route (one served huddersfield rd & Stocks Bank Road between mirfield & nab lane),at the time wasnt 268 going under 2 different services as well? - one via current route & 1 via manchester rd between smiddles lane & bradford
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Post by Kenton Schweppes on Apr 15, 2013 19:31:26 GMT 1
Them were the days the limited stop services between Huddersfield and Leeds....top stuff.
Don't think any of the Arriva buses run via Keldregate now, back in the day they all did aside for the 220, that went straight up Leeds Road to Cooper Bridge, think its still runs as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 20:26:38 GMT 1
Them were the days the limited stop services between Huddersfield and Leeds....top stuff. Don't think any of the Arriva buses run via Keldregate now, back in the day they all did aside for the 220, that went straight up Leeds Road to Cooper Bridge, think its still runs as well. nope,arriva pulled out of Bradley area bout 2005.220 Went up passed Rail Stn & down Deighton Rd.Now all 202/3,220/9 run direct on leeds rd
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Post by Craig on Apr 16, 2013 17:51:53 GMT 1
I think it was the 218 that went straight down Leeds Road and all other YWD services diverted through Bradley.
The 250/253/257/258 took slightly different routes in Mirfield and somewhere else - East Bierley perhaps? They all more or less followed today's 253 route but jointly were every 30 mins instead of the hourly service now.
I don't remember any of the Bradford services calling via Fieldhead unless it was some short lived thing. For a long time one 281 bus every hour stopped short at Batley and a 215 bus filled that gap running via the same route to Fieldhead. Meanwhile the 213 it ran alongside went from Batley to Heckmondwike (similar to the 226 route, now the 221) and then on to Cleckheaton.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 16, 2013 19:46:43 GMT 1
I've got a 2001 map here, I don't know how typical it was
250 & 258 only ran towards Bradford daytimes, 253 & 257 only towards Wakefield daytimes, 253 ran both ways evenings and sundays
253 & 258 via East Bierley, 250 & 257 via Birkenshaw Bar 257 & 258 via Windy Bank, 250 & 253 direct via Halifax Road 250 & 253 via Kitson Hill Road/Nab Lane in Mirfield, 257 & 258 direct
In Huddersfield... 201, 202, 203, 217, 219, 221, 229 all via Bradley Keldregate 218, 220 direct via Leeds Road
251 & 252 ran Bradford to Dewsbury with 251 via Birkenshaw Bar & 252 via East Bierley, direct from Batley to Dewsbury via Bradford Road
256 from Bradford to Dewsbury via East Bierley, Hunsworth, Moorside, Windy Bank, Hare Park Lane, Heckmondwike & Dewsbury Moor 259 from Bradford to Dewsbury via Westgate Hill, Birkenshaw, Listing Lane, Heckmondwike then direct via Dewsbury Moor 254 similar to today but via 213 route between Dewsbury Moor & Dewsbury
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Post by davep on Apr 19, 2013 18:10:21 GMT 1
Many thanks to all ,anyone have any West Riding bus routes from Wakefield and pre National bus company route numbers for both companies.
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Post by pontecarlo on Jun 5, 2013 14:01:19 GMT 1
Just to add some of the ones I remember too: 105, 106: Standbridge ASDA to Fieldhead Hospital via Sandal & Pinderfields 107: Wakefield-Pinders Heath (Very short lived service) 116: Wakefield-Ossett-Dewsbury 118: Wakefield-Ossett-Leeds (Slight deviations from the current 117) The Castleford-Chequerfield service was numbers 133, 134, 135, 136 and 137 The Castleford-Ferry Fryston was 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158 and 159 - I believe the 156 and 159 also extended to Wakefield. These were later renumbered back and forth to 185 and 186. 138: Pontefract-Halfpenny Lane 143: Wakefield-Knottingley (most of the current 150 route, except via Wentcliffe Hill) 161: Astley-Leeds 164/165: Castleford-Garforth-Leeds (Slight deviations again from 163 and 166) 178/179: Castleford-Featherstone-Pontefract - both slight deviations from the current 177/146 191: Normanton-Newfields Estate 410: Leeds-Pontefract-Doncaster (via A1) 411: Leeds-Pontefract-Doncaster (via Womersley/Askern) 412/413: Pontefract-Wentbridge-Doncaster 414: Pontefract-Askern-Doncaster (Replaced the 411) The 411 then worked Leeds-Knottingley Broomhill Avenue, also serving 'New Hall' Estate between Nevison and Monkhill The 496 also terminated at Priory Estate in South Elmsall for a while 476: Pontefract-Hut Green-Selby 486: Pontefract-Hut Green-Snaith-Selby (Goole on Wednesdays) X50: Knottingley-Pontefract-Wakefield (Limited Stop) X52: Chequerfield-Pontefract-Castleford-Leeds (Limited Stop)
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Post by m60800 on Jun 5, 2013 21:07:41 GMT 1
426: Bradford - Wakefield direct (not via Morley town centre, stuck to A650 between Gildersome r'bout and Tingley) 427: Bradford - Wakefield via Gildersome and Morley 428: Bradford - Wakefield via Drighlington Moor, Bruntcliffe and Morley
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jun 8, 2013 12:03:26 GMT 1
I'm not up to memories with west riding buses but there was 151/154 - 161 buses I've got on a 1999 leeds map, all went Leeds - woodlesford - castle ford - ferry fryston. Half the numbers, went down leeds - castleford for what is now The 167 route today, the other half went down what is the 168 route.
Was a period with the 167/168 was a 170 too. Earlier on in the 90's, the same as today, but Leeds - Knottingley.
There was the 445 Leeds - Wakefield - Barnsley joint with Yorkshire traction (the 446 and 59 of today's terms)
Also the Micklefield/Castleford limited stop peak buses. X4 / X64 / X66 and 140. The buses went straight up York road, ( 140 ran down templenewsam road and temple gate) selby road, ( x66 went via kippax like the 163/166) rest to Micklefield, then x4/x64 via ledston luck, backtrack to Castleford.
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Post by kaytown on Jun 8, 2013 12:45:42 GMT 1
Can't remember a '170' service coming into Knottingley in the 90's. The only '170' that i can recall goes further back than that. Seem to remember it being a Pontefract local service to Chequerfield. Operated by Featherstone depot. Some more i remember from that time were the '173' (Castleford - Pontefract - Willow Park), '141' (Pontefract - Halfpenny Lane Estate). '138' (Castleford - Half Acres). Also can anyone remember the 'Fastaway' limited stop services? The 'X49' ran all stops from Knottingley to Featherstone Station Lane End, then non-stop to Wakefield. I think there also was an 'X52' which ran Leeds - Castleford (non-stop to Methley).
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Post by marcel on Apr 19, 2014 23:11:06 GMT 1
the 225 in the 80s went through to Elland via lower egde road , and a peak hour X99 used to operate from Leeeds to Elland then from Elland to cleckheaton , also as a point of intrest did you know the last 2 buses out of Elland in those days were operated by the White rose express drivers and the coaches too
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Post by marcel on Apr 19, 2014 23:13:13 GMT 1
there was also a 278 which ran from Queensbury to Osset i think , but dont quote me on that ..but i do remember it as the X12 was still running then too
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Post by deerfold on Apr 20, 2014 1:46:32 GMT 1
there was also a 278 which ran from Queensbury to Osset i think , but dont quote me on that ..but i do remember it as the X12 was still running then too It ran all the way to wakefield, interspersed with the 279 to Halifax. Eventually it was rerouted to also serve Halifax via Elland and has survived longer than the 279.
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Post by marcel on Apr 20, 2014 13:27:23 GMT 1
aye it has Deerfold , its odd that, , i was brought up in Elland and u know those were the good old days me and my mate frank from WV met up at my house and we religiously did the last 2 buses from Leeds (we got on at the spring gardens) to Elland and the drivers let us stay on while they had their break , thats how i got to know them all ..and as i said they were the last 2 runs of the white rose express diagrams
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Post by whereami on Apr 20, 2014 13:28:46 GMT 1
269 used to run to Bradford via same route as 268 but divert from Swan Lights through Firthcliffe & back down 223 in the mid-late 1970's ran Leeds - Manchester X33 moved to run via Cleck around 1983/4 X24 Peak AM only Halifax - Leeds X25 did Elland - Leeds Most of the old routes from years ago, are still there, but not possibly not the full route. 268 used to be G bus Dewsbury - Moorend I remember from my childhood living in Gomersal, 267 Batley- Gomersal, 240/9 Morley - Wyke, 220 was jointly worked with Yorkshire Traction, 260 Huddersfield - Bradford used to run via Gomersal to Tong Cemetary before it changed places with 253 to run via Hunsworth & East Bierley. All the variations on the 250/3/7/8 were stupid, 250 same way as 253 to Gomersal, then down by Shoulder of Mutton, past Gomersal Park Hotel, Birkenshaw Bar, Tong Cemetary to Bradford, came out as 257, back the same way to Pack Horse, then, went through Windybank, into Roberttown, down towards Old Bank, at saville pub, would continue straight til past Zion church, take right to get to Knowle Coop, at Mirfield all went same way to Dewsbury & Wakefield, at Wakefield, it then changed to 258, which went same way as 257 back to Gomersal, but, went straight to Birkenshaw Roundabout, then via East Bierley to Bradford, and changed to 253 back same as 258 to Pack Horse, what in effect is its normal route, today. When I started in this industry in 2001, Hecky depot had 30 route numbers not including School runs, now, there's 14, and probably you'll find part of one route along with part of another route.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 20, 2014 14:06:45 GMT 1
there was also a 278 which ran from Queensbury to Osset i think , but dont quote me on that ..but i do remember it as the X12 was still running then too It ran all the way to wakefield, interspersed with the 279 to Halifax. Eventually it was rerouted to also serve Halifax via Elland and has survived longer than the 279. Those 278's were not continuous though. There was a long period throughout the 90s when it was just the 279 every 30 mins via Elland Wood Bottom. The 278 was introduced when the 225 was cut back to run Brighouse to Leeds only, and then subsequently the 279 was withdrawn leaving just the 278.
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