kendall17
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Justice for the 96!
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 17, 2016 7:46:06 GMT 1
Well I didn`t think 1990`s Scania`s would still be at work in Leeds in 2016 whether with First or anyone else for that matter. time they went for scrap, they were good buses in their day but regardless of regulations they need to be ditched off Leeds city services. Still no valid reason apart from age?
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Post by SCH117X on Jun 17, 2016 12:40:31 GMT 1
Don't complain about the Scanias, an X70 this morning had Olympian P168BTV on it.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jun 17, 2016 20:48:31 GMT 1
Don't complain about the Scanias, an X70 this morning had Olympian P168BTV on it. 0920 ex Wetherby and 0955 ex Harrogate used to be booked P168BTV.
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Post by rossbailey on Jun 18, 2016 11:47:23 GMT 1
Let be fair, As I don't see anyone complaining about First still using V reged Scania's on the 91's.
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Post by SCH117X on Jun 18, 2016 12:23:38 GMT 1
Don't complain about the Scanias, an X70 this morning had Olympian P168BTV on it. 0920 ex Wetherby and 0955 ex Harrogate used to be booked P168BTV. It would have been the 0920. Users of the X6A/X12 today are being treated to the 65 reg Solo, now properly branded, instead of an elderly Scania.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jun 18, 2016 17:22:20 GMT 1
0920 ex Wetherby and 0955 ex Harrogate used to be booked P168BTV. It would have been the 0920. Users of the X6A/X12 today are being treated to the 65 reg Solo, now properly branded, instead of an elderly Scania. X6A/X12 is a saloon on schooldays, as it works a school am/pm
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Post by Dom on Jun 23, 2016 2:17:29 GMT 1
I live on the 38 route,it passes my bedroom window. I've notcied a significant change in punctuality, the buses are smart internally, seat backs are cleaner,more comfortable padded seats,and friendly drivers. It's a significant improvement.
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Post by 112jct41 on Jun 24, 2016 20:23:21 GMT 1
It looks like S600SLT isnt sticking around As Geoff ripley has it for sale on his ebay account.
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Post by SCH117X on Jun 25, 2016 12:39:14 GMT 1
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Post by harrogatecoach on Jun 28, 2016 22:34:50 GMT 1
Interesting for armchair operators to tell us what to do. When you take a route on that an operator de registers as not commercial, you don't put heavily financed vehicles on it, do you? If the route builds up, as the 13 has, it will get better vehicles. Incidentally, those ex first scanias have adblue and are Euro IV emissions- better than the 04 deckers first use! incidentally, if anyone wants to talk seriously about what is posted on here instead of surmising what might have happened, I'm more than happy to tell it how it is to anyone that asks- by email or for those that know me, face to face, not on public forums
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Post by titan1641 on Jun 29, 2016 0:50:13 GMT 1
Interesting for armchair operators to tell us what to do. When you take a route on that an operator de registers as not commercial, you don't put heavily financed vehicles on it, do you? If the route builds up, as the 13 has, it will get better vehicles. Incidentally, those ex first scanias have adblue and are Euro IV emissions- better than the 04 deckers first use! incidentally, if anyone wants to talk seriously about what is posted on here instead of surmising what might have happened, I'm more than happy to tell it how it is to anyone that asks- by email or for those that know me, face to face, not on public forums Which begs the question, why are you so afraid of public forums when you've signed up to one? Maybe you're worried there's someone from Transdev on here? but demanding that people contact you via email or face to face doesn't give you any guarantees either. Surely if you want the enthusiast fraternity on your side you will keep them updated on here & not hold them to ransom to suit yourself.
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Post by scania60066 on Jun 29, 2016 9:38:20 GMT 1
Interesting for armchair operators to tell us what to do. When you take a route on that an operator de registers as not commercial, you don't put heavily financed vehicles on it, do you? If the route builds up, as the 13 has, it will get better vehicles. Incidentally, those ex first scanias have adblue and are Euro IV emissions- better than the 04 deckers first use! incidentally, if anyone wants to talk seriously about what is posted on here instead of surmising what might have happened, I'm more than happy to tell it how it is to anyone that asks- by email or for those that know me, face to face, not on public forums Which begs the question, why are you so afraid of public forums when you've signed up to one? Maybe you're worried there's someone from Transdev on here? but demanding that people contact you via email or face to face doesn't give you any guarantees either. Surely if you want the enthusiast fraternity on your side you will keep them updated on here & not hold them to ransom to suit yourself. Probably because he doesn't want everyone to know his business.... A open forum like this brings negative n positive feedback.. A sign of a good business man in my opinion
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Post by Burnside on Jun 29, 2016 13:35:42 GMT 1
Agreed. And anyway, the Scania's may be a good few years old, but i'd rather an old Scania than a Plaxton Primo.
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Post by neukit on Jul 14, 2016 22:24:31 GMT 1
Deleting complaining tweets really does them no credit; noticed Transdev in comparison are increasingly answering complaints by offering refunds etc and do not delete them. No business gets it right all the time, and the vast majority of people understand that. What marks out the best companies (in any line of work) is how they react when things do go wrong and they get a complaint. The bus industry has been slow to grasp this, but there are some out there that are trying to turn the tanker around.
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Post by Craig on Jul 17, 2016 15:51:30 GMT 1
Posts deleted due to the personal nature of some of them aimed at individuals.
I'm amazed that somebody associated with an operator would want to use this public space as an overflow for a personal comment against a customer. This is not the type of thing this forum gets used for and I can't really believe it happened.
Suffice to say I don't expect further discussion of the issue on here.
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 21, 2016 18:17:56 GMT 1
The sillyness continues as they have now registered to themselves www.harrogatebuscompany.co.uk, which of course immediately redirects to www.connexionsbuses.com. Unfortunately the web site is still a bit like something a schoolkid put together as a make believe " We operate a network of bus routes centred on Harrogate and York including buses to Ilkley, Guiseley, Ripon and Boroughbridge", really? It some time since they ventured near the last three, and the list of routes is largely jumbled up and those that the bus co name carries any sensibility with are at the end of the list. Would anyone not knowing the area really not think its some kids plaything.
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Post by 112jct41 on Jul 21, 2016 18:41:39 GMT 1
The sillyness continues as they have now registered to themselves www.harrogatebuscompany.co.uk, which of course immediately redirects to www.connexions.com. Unfortunately the web site is still a bit like something a schoolkid put together as a make believe " We operate a network of bus routes centred on Harrogate and York including buses to Ilkley, Guiseley, Ripon and Boroughbridge", really? It some time since they ventured near the last three, and the list of routes is largely jumbled up and those that the bus co name carries any sensibility with are at the end of the list. Would anyone not knowing the area really not think its some kids plaything. At least they've finally updated the fleetlist also it does flow a bit better but they dont mention the presidents/tridents they have on school runs.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 21, 2016 21:13:08 GMT 1
That's not the website it redirects to!
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 21, 2016 21:44:03 GMT 1
That's not the website it redirects to! Apologies - corrected
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Post by ajw11239 on Jul 27, 2016 21:18:28 GMT 1
For the purposes of fairness, I'd say I found Connexions' website quite smart, but their list of services to find a timetable isn't very coherent. They also have quite a smart App to live track their buses. Again, good, but this comes with the price that at least in York, none of their services are live tracked on the bus information screens so when their buses run late (and some do), they disappear off the screen and passengers just have to wait and see.
I have to admit to finding their Twitter a bit childish, as pointed out Transdev and their MD Alex Hornby seem to be keeping professional to the contrary. I do remember though that at the start of the academic year, their York team were being very undignified on Twitter about their Unibus services - retweeting complaints to First, making remarks which was very unprofessional but that's run by different people...
One thing that annoys me slightly with Connexions is their lack of any evening or Sunday services, and particularly their response of "we want our drivers to have family time" - that's not how a bus company works - if there's no commercial viability then fine but you're providing a service for your passengers, not staff (and obviously staff wouldn't work early morning through to late at night!)
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 29, 2016 18:26:42 GMT 1
The lack of live tracking on info screens also exists in Harrogate and on Metros web site.
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Post by harrogatecoach on Jul 29, 2016 19:12:39 GMT 1
The lack of live tracking annoys me too. We bought Ticketer machines that metro and North Yorkshire wanted all operators to buy, and nearly 4 years on, they still won't communicate with their system. So, we took the matter into our own hands and were one of the first to get the find my bus app. If they dont track in York, I need to get to the bottom of it- our system tracks them
regarding the website- we are trying to get the services in some semblance of order but our web provider keeps putting hurdles in the way....
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jul 29, 2016 21:26:15 GMT 1
The lack of live tracking annoys me too. We bought Ticketer machines that metro and North Yorkshire wanted all operators to buy, and nearly 4 years on, they still won't communicate with their system. So, we took the matter into our own hands and were one of the first to get the find my bus app. If they dont track in York, I need to get to the bottom of it- our system tracks them regarding the website- we are trying to get the services in some semblance of order but our web provider keeps putting hurdles in the way.... Would have thought that York would use the same back office setup as Metro for the tracking. TLC seem to track, so perhaps it might be worth seeing what configuration they use, and where it differs to yours. Might also be worth looking during the day tomorrow to see if Stephensons and Reliance buses track in York.
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Post by 112jct41 on Jul 29, 2016 22:13:41 GMT 1
The lack of live tracking annoys me too. We bought Ticketer machines that metro and North Yorkshire wanted all operators to buy, and nearly 4 years on, they still won't communicate with their system. So, we took the matter into our own hands and were one of the first to get the find my bus app. If they dont track in York, I need to get to the bottom of it- our system tracks them regarding the website- we are trying to get the services in some semblance of order but our web provider keeps putting hurdles in the way.... Would have thought that York would use the same back office setup as Metro for the tracking. TLC seem to track, so perhaps it might be worth seeing what configuration they use, and where it differs to yours. Might also be worth looking during the day tomorrow to see if Stephensons and Reliance buses track in York. Ross Travel usually track as well and I've seen occasional BL Travel 223 trips track.Almost every independant under Metro use Ticketer although some like Longstaff for example still have their older Wayfarer Ticket Machines.
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 31, 2016 9:47:01 GMT 1
regarding the website- we are trying to get the services in some semblance of order but our web provider keeps putting hurdles in the way.... Suggest you change provider if they are stopping simple html editing of a web page (although I note the front page has been edited to remove references to places no longer served) The routes are simple entries with list item tags <li>and </li> Find it odd that an ISP is preventing those being edited ; would suggest headings need to be inserted in it - say Bus Services in Harrogate, Bus Services in Leeds, Bus Services in Wetherby, Bus Services in Wharfedale (Otley & Ilkley), Bus Services in York, School Services with the appropriate services listed beneath each even if means duplicating entries. If they dont track in York, I need to get to the bottom of it.... So you are not bothered about the lack of tracking in the town that you claim to be the bus company of then?
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